Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868

[tomhawking]

Milliepede - I ordered the death certificate and you were right - the perennial problem of Hawking/Hawkins that I get almost every week was rearing its head even in 1868: http://imgur.com/a/97E6B. Thanks all for your help.

Before I close this off, can anyone suggest another way to verify this person and the one born in Cornwall are one and the same, without the census records I can't find. I just need something, other than a census, that states his place of birth as St Dominick, or Cornwall at least?

[JenB]

It's good news that you have at least verified his death thanks to Milliepede 

At the moment I can't think of any way to verify his birthplace apart from the census, I'm afraid, and have drawn a complete blank on that despite, despite hours of searching 

[tomhawking]

Thanks Jen - and thanks so much for searching! I'm still waiting to hear from the Charterhouse to see if there are any records, but other than that I might just have to go on the uniqueness of the name.

[Mair]

I don't have subs to anywhere but noticed that there are a couple of undeciphered surnames that are listed and could be possibles?

M

If you can, if you have not already, looked at some of these - one surname was transcribed as " H "  but in roughly the right location

But as JenB has said apart from the census you are going to have to      rely on Lady Luck and gut instinct as you say.

I hope something turns up!

M

[Bookbox]

I'm still waiting to hear from the Charterhouse to see if there are any records

Most records relating to Charterhouse pensioners in the 1800s are deposited at London Metropolitan Archives (ACC/1876/PS).

Summary here ...
http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=15829&inst_id=118

Full details in the LMA catalogue here ...
http://search.lma.gov.uk/LMA_DOC/ACC_1876.PDF
(section starting p. 401)

[Milliepede]

Glad it was the right death 

[Lily M]

Has anyone had any luck with tracing the Richard H. Hawking who witnessed the marriage to Elizabeth Priscilla?

I see there's a Richard Hawking on the 1861 census.  Living in Clerkenwell, but born c.1793 in St. Dominick, Cornwall.  He's living with his niece Rebecca Fairweather age 20 from Framlingham, Suffolk.

Rebecca married George Williams in 1866

Unfortunately, this Richard Hawking didn't marry.  So we can't compare signatures.

Richard died in 1866. His probate mentions niece Rebecca Fairweather and nephews Richard Henry Martin and Tobias Edwin Martin.  I can't tie these families together though.

The Will was contested in 1875 by a Jane Eveline Williams - spinster.

[Milliepede]

Tobias Edwin baptism has parents Susannah and William Martin and family tree has

Richard Hawking
Suzanna Hawking baptism 30 Nov 1794 St Dominick Cornwall
William Hutchins Hawking

as siblings. 

So that would fit with Tobias being a nephew of Richard (and of William) if Susannah married a William Martin.

[Lily M]

Richard Hawking seems to acquire his family in an unconventional manner.

On 1861 census - (name written down as  Hanking)  he is with his two sons, William and John Wright from Saxmundham, Suffolk!!   This can't be right.   Plus Rebecca Fairweather as servant.

ADDED   In 1861 Richard Hawking is a retired schoolmaster.  So ties in with William with that

Another later edit  -  Above should read 1851