Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868

[tomhawking]

That's William's son and his wife - William and Jane's marriage entry here: http://imgur.com/a/VieTt.
Thanks all for the continued help, by the way - I love this community already!

[JenB]

That's William's son and his wife -

I'm losing the plot here. The marriage I gave in my reply was exactly the same one you have now linked to.

[tomhawking]

Sorry Jen - I think our posts must have crossed over.

[Mair]

Looking at marriage details we go for 1798  baptised in the year of birth

I don't have subs to anywhere but noticed that there are a couple of undeciphered surnames that are listed and could be possibles?

M

P'S subs are in hand!

[tomhawking]

Thank you to all - the help has been phenomenal.

The Ancestry family trees, which I have never trusted without source citations, have given me a helpful tip - the first William Hawking was buried in St Dominick in 1790: http://bit.ly/2joi7Pv. I have also ordered the death certificate for the William Hawkins who died in Holborn in the right year with the right age, so helpfully that will shed some light.

The two issues I have left are the changes in William's occupation, from Schoolmaster to Collector and then back and forth once more, and the lack of corroborative census evidence for his place of birth.

Can anyone help with the following questions:
Are the changes in occupations very odd?
Is the lack of census data particularly strange or suspicious, or par for the course in London in this time period?
Can anyone suggest any records of teachers in this period? I know the SoG has some records, but I'm not quite ready to spend £50 on a subscription.

Thank you all so much.

[JenB]

I'm mystified. I've searched until I am blue in the face for William in 1851 and William & Jane in 1861, but I really can't find anything.

Wherever they are, they are pretty well hidden 

(Now that I've said that I expect someone will come along and produce them like a rabbit out of a hat  )

[JenB]

I just remembered that there are some missing pieces in the 1861 census, and some of them are in Middlesex.

It isn't beyond the bounds of possibility that William and Jane were living in one of the 'missing' areas.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

[Milliepede]

Just checking, the 1841 census you have I take it says "no" for not born in County?

[tomhawking]

Hi Millie,

Yes, it does, for all the family - the census entry is in Lambeth, which, according to Phillimore's, was Surrey then, so anyone born across the river would have a "No" entry for this field anyway. The children were baptised in Middlesex, so this definitely fits, at least.

Jen - I have gone through William's and Jane's addresses on their 1856 marriage entry and cross-referenced these with the missing bits of the census. I don't think they lived then in any of the parishes with missing info, but they could have moved; plus, it's not inconceivable, I suppose, that other bits of the census for other areas are slightly missing, I suppose. I even checked the streets they had lived on in 1856 using the FindMyPast search (which allows street-by-street searching) and there's nobody with names that might be mistranscribed from Hawking to something else.