Mary Caroline GRASMANN

[Greaves]

I am trying to find the birth record of the above very distant relative. All I know is that she was born somewhere in Bavaria in 1850. Her mother's name was Gertrude.

Any help would be very welcome.

[Greaves]

If it helps, I think that Mary Caroline and her mother Gertrude Elizabeth, obviously Anglicised versions of their birth names, must have travelled to England between 1850 and 1855.

[jorose]

Not much to go on with 'somewhere in Bavaria'. There is no equivalent to freebmd for German records.

How do you know they travelled to England by 1855 - did her mother marry/remarry there? Was there a sibling born there?

What do you know of Mary Caroline's later life - marriage, death, etc?

Do you know the religious affiliation of her family (Lutheran, Catholic, other...)

Ideally we'd be able to trace a likely town/city where the family originated to narrow the search.

[Greaves]

I'm afraid that "somewhere in Bavaria" is the best I can do.

I know that Mary Caroline Grassman was born in Bavaria in c1850 and that her sister was born in Hackney in c1855. So Mary and her mother must have travelled sometime between 1850 and 1855.

I know that Mary Caroline married into the MENTZEL family and lived in Marylebone and Willesden, dying in 1938.

As for religious affiliation, I have no definitive knowledge. Given the Bavarian connection, I would have guessed Catholic, but then some of her children were baptised in Anglican churches.

So yes, I know the information I possess is minimal, I was just hoping that some one who knows their way around the records might come up with something.

[C P Rayson]

Hi

In the 1891 Census Mary is shown born c1850 in Baiern Prussia (Northern Bavaria now)
RG12
Piece number    91
Folio    12
Page    22

I believe Baiern is now Bayern

Hope this is of interest

Regards

Chris

[JustinL]

You may already have found the following marriages in FreeBMD:

Kurolina [should read Karolina] Marian Grassman and Gustav Richard Hentyel - Q2 1870 Pancras

There is also marriage for Gustus Richard Mentzel in Q2 1870 Pancras added by hand.

 

[black.betty]

Here is the marriage of Otto Johannes Herrlich

[aghadowey]

I must be missing something but where does Otto Johannes Herrlich fit into this? 

Does her English marriage certificate not list a father's name and occupation? what about the sister's 1855 certificate- any father listed?

[decor]

What was her sister's name? Do you have her birth certificate?