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Re: Finding a record of criminal trial - Westminster City General Sessions
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 08 January 17 06:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, ShaunJ. That may be a lead. I'll look into that a bit more. The dates and location are certainly suggestive.  :)
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).

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Re: Finding a record of criminal trial - Westminster City General Sessions
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08 January 17 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: middlesbrough on Thursday 05 January 17 12:59 GMT (UK)
Received from Bridewell, Westminster Gaol 13.3.1843.

'Bridewell Westminster' is another name for the Tothill Fields prison, mentioned in my reply #4 above.

The prison calendars for Tothill Fields are held at LMA, separately from the court records discussed above, and if anyone is going they could be inspected on the same visit. Again, they're not going to provide 'family background' as such, but they may include something that offers a lead.

This information leaflet refers (see halfway down p. 15) ...
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Documents/59-prison-records.pdf

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Re: Finding a record of criminal trial - Westminster City General Sessions
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 January 17 01:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for clarifying the Bridewell-Tothill Fields link, Bookbox. I didn't realise.

I will get all my requests in relation to Thomas Carr via the LMA organised and then post on the lookups board as you suggested.

OJ
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).

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Re: Finding a record of criminal trial - Westminster City General Sessions
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 16:37 BST (UK) »
Hello OJ,

Would you happen to have a photograph of Thomas CARR by any chance ??? ???

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Re: Finding a record of criminal trial - Westminster City General Sessions
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 04:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I've spent the last few years researching the Thomas Arbuthnot exiles. I know a bit about Thomas Carr.
I don't think Thomas Carr the exile is the same as your Thomas Carr, to be honest.  I think he's been mixed up a few times.
Thomas Carr left the Thomas Arbuthnot with work as a groom for Major Newman in Geelong. From there he seems to have headed up to Ballarat, probably looking for gold.
Thomas Carr the exile was convicted of robbery in 1858 in Victoria. At the time, he was in Ballarat and gave the name "William Jones". His prison record shows he was born in Lancashire, which may or may not be true. He said at the time that he had no relatives in the Colony. He wasn't released until 1864.
That doesn't seem to fit with your Thomas Carr.
Thomas Carr the exile seems to have suffered from a fairly severe mental illness later in life, claiming to be a wizard at times. He was sometimes referred to as "the Wizard of the South". He lived around Wangaratta in the 1860s.
As far as I can work out, he died at the Alfred Hospital in Prahran in 1884.

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Jill Brewer
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