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Charles Alfred Barnes
« on: Sunday 01 January 17 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Happy New Year Everyone
Can some kind person help? looking for my great grandfather left New Zealand June 1911 on board the ship 'Maitai' from Wellington, New Zealand to Los Angeles, California arrived July 1911.
His Occupation was either a Train Diver or Train Engineer.
I found a marriage (ancestry.com) for him to Alice Hagey or (Kagey) 17 March 1914 (birth Place and parents match) Vancouver, Clarke, Washington, USA.
In a newspaper back in New Zealand was a notice of his death Feb 1920 could have been California or Washington.
Thank you
Copeland/Copland, Byrom, Dickinson, Ross-Ricketts, Shuttleton.

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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 January 17 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Here is his death record in Seattle, Washington:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3GZ-ZYQ

And here he is in the 1920 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHNR-XD4

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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 January 17 15:34 GMT (UK) »
There was a line mention for him  in the death notices for Seattle. The address matches that of the 1920 census.

Seattle Daily Times
Seattle, Washington
Friday, February 27, 1920

     Deaths
Charles A. Barnes, 60, 271 17th Ave.
February 24.



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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 January 17 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Can some kind person help? looking for my great grandfather left New Zealand June 1911 on board the ship 'Maitai' from Wellington, New Zealand to Los Angeles, California arrived July 1911.
His Occupation was either a Train Diver or Train Engineer.

Records indicate he arrived in San Francisco 21 July 1911. His destination is listed as San Francisco with no contact there given. Occupation engine driver.

Passenger list (line 15) pt.1 : http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j6g/

Passenger list (line 15) pt.2: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j6h/


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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 January 17 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the information, so grateful, it looks as though this Charles Alfred Barnes could
be my great grandfather.
On the death information on familysearch it has his father as Albert (his father Henry Barnes and mother Mary Hammond) only as good as information given I guess.
The wife Alice Hagey or Kagey not able to find a birth for her in Iowa or her first marriage, her parents being Archer M. Browning and Martha Ann Griffin can anyone help please.
Thank you
Copeland/Copland, Byrom, Dickinson, Ross-Ricketts, Shuttleton.

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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 January 17 03:03 GMT (UK) »
Here is Archer and Martha's marriage:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XJ4R-V9V

And based on that, this looks like the family in the 1870 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDKM-GFL

I think "Grace" in the 1870 census may be the same person as "Alice", based on Alice's age in 1920.

The only birth record for that time frame is likely to be a church baptism record.  You may want to see if there is a local genealogical or historical society for Van Buren County that can help.

And by 1880, the family had moved to California:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6PJ-V3G

Interestingly, there is both an Alice and a Grace in this family, but Grace fits better in terms of age.  Probably needs more research to sort this out.

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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 January 17 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steve
Thank you for your suggestions.
Regards
Copeland/Copland, Byrom, Dickinson, Ross-Ricketts, Shuttleton.

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Re: Charles Alfred Barnes
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 January 17 04:38 GMT (UK) »
A possibility?
Passenger list, departed Sydney, NZ and Papeete, arriving San Francisco CA 11 July 1913
Charles Barnes, age 49 years 9 months; Meat Curer; Citizen of U.S.A; 3 pieces of baggage; born England; intended destination: Vancouver.
    Could he have returned to New Zealand in 1913 for a visit?

Is this of any help?
Northern Pacific Railway Company
Personnel file
King St Station (Division or Department)
Seattle February 24, 1920
Chas Alfred Barnes, (occupation) Sta. Engr, Seattle
Reason for discharge, resigned, etc.: Died
Date effective: February 24, 1920
Date entered service: December 16, 1918
Reason for resignation or discharge and character of service: Died; Services satisfactory
Signed by ?; Supt Passgr Terminals (his title); King Street Passgr (station)

Employment Application - December 16, 1918
Charles "Affred" Barnes
Employment desired: Fireman
Nationality: English
Born: London England  July 1868  Married
Wife: Alice Barnes, 2803 1/2 Jackson Street
Parents (his) were deceased
Nearest relative: New "Zeland" Dune? (ink blot after Dune)
Alio? Mary Wright?    Henery? Barnes
Does not drink alcohol; no ailments; never suffered physical injury; never previously employed with the company
Mr. Barnes was 5'9"; 156 (weight); dark hair; brown eyes
The officer "engaging applicant" desired to employ the candidate as Staty Eng at King Street Station.
Effective 12-12-18, $115.00 rate of pay

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"How and Where Previously Occupied"
Sep 1916 - Oct 1917, Fireman, Seattle - Resigned
  Under whom employed: Todd Dry (name), Dock (title) Seattle (location)
Oct 1917 - Nov 1918, Fireman, Seattle - Resigned?
  Under whom employed: Seattle (name), Light? (title) Seattle (location)
No dates for the following:
Roy C Slocom, Union Meat Co., Portland, Ore
Walter Riddle, Dunedin, NZ

Could the 1913 have been your Mr. Barnes, since he did apparently work for a meat company at one time?

PS  There are images of the King Street Station on the internet, in case you are interested.
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