"Who Do You Think You Are" Series 13, Episode 5 Ricky Tomlinson

[sallyyorks]

"microfilm loading"

Hasn't she heard of the wonderful, comprehensive and free resource known as Lancashire OPC !
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
(contains a total of 8930815 records from 8429 Registers)

I think the microfilm loading may have been a bit tongue in cheek so to speak.

Yes the OPC sites are a good finding aid, but they are of course transcriptions that need to be checked against the originals, as with all secondary source material.

LanOPC is the best  It has such a good reputation, is very thorough and very well transcribed.

Here is William?
William Tomlinson bapt 8 Sep 1816 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Son of Richard Tomlinson (labourer of Lancelott Hey) & Cathn.

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Couldn't find a Richard = Catherine marriage
It is a local name but maybe RT's Tomlinsons didn't come from Lancashire originally after all  ?

[chris_49]

The programme pretended that sectarianism in Liverpool had all faded away by the start of the Great War.

Not many years ago I worked with a chap from Liverpool who supported Liverpool FC. His father refused to speak to him, because Liverpool are the "Catholic" club, while Everton are the "Protestants". My workmate explained "He's in the Orange Lodge and everything".

Maybe it was not obvious to RT or those making the programme, but there are still those in Liverpool who will treat him as a traitor for marrying who he did.

As for the "class struggle" in Liverpool, there are those who have still not forgiven the dockers there for going on strike in 1943.

Traditionally Everton FC had more supporters from an Irish RC background.

Blue

I'm sure Blue is right - it's what I've always been led to believe, but more a historical issue, nothing like the Celtic-Rangers sectarian animosity which continues to this day.
 

[Blue70]

Possible marriage for William's parents:-

11 Oct 1801
St Peter CE Liverpool
Richard Tomlinson, Liverpool, Labourer
Catharine Roberts, Liverpool, Spinster
Witness 1: Wm Morgan
Witness 2: Abram Critchlow


Blue

[sallyyorks]

Possible marriage for Richard's parents:-

11 Oct 1801
St Peter CE Liverpool
Richard Tomlinson, Liverpool, Labourer
Catharine Roberts, Liverpool, Spinster
Witness 1: Wm Morgan
Witness 2: Abram Critchlow


Blue

Looks good Blue

[Blue70]

Possible baptisms (son of Liverpool merchant John Tomlinson candidate died in 1819) 

Baptism: 14 Mar 1779 St Bartholomew, Chipping, Lancs.
Richard Tomlinson - Son of Richard Tomlinson
Abode: Chipping
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1791 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 9, Entry 25
Source: LDS Film 1656769

Baptism: 14 Nov 1779 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Richard Tomlinson - son of Robert Tomlinson & Mary
Register: Baptisms 1778 - 1789, Page 34, Entry 1628
Source: LDS Film 2357002


Blue

[sallyyorks]

Possible baptisms (son of Liverpool merchant John Tomlinson candidate died in 1819) 

Baptism: 14 Mar 1779 St Bartholomew, Chipping, Lancs.
Richard Tomlinson - Son of Richard Tomlinson
Abode: Chipping
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1791 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 9, Entry 25
Source: LDS Film 1656769

Baptism: 14 Nov 1779 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Richard Tomlinson - son of Robert Tomlinson & Mary
Register: Baptisms 1778 - 1789, Page 34, Entry 1628
Source: LDS Film 2357002


Blue

Richard Tomlinson bapt 22 Aug 1784 St Nicholas, Liverpool, son of Richard Tomlinson (labourer) & Elizabeth, of Trueman St.
 
Possible but this would make him 17 at his marriage to Catherine

[Blue70]

Another possible:-

Name: Richard Tomlinson
Baptism Date: 20 Sep 1778
Baptism Place: Lapley, Staffordshire, England
Father: Richard Tomlinson   
Mother: Mary 


Blue

[Blue70]

You Tube (only about 50 mins long though should be about 58 mins long):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MxFuEZa-u8&feature=youtu.be


Blue

[Rena]

In my opinion, he should have gone back a generation at a time and finished with the last carter and found out that his father did something else but never mind. Looking forward to the next one! 

Yes, I thought so too as somebody must have bought the first horse and cart to pass down to the next generation.