Cow Hay Wood, Poynton.

[Ray T]

The widowed Martha Hallworth (Nee. Hallam) appears on the 1841, 1851 and 1861 living at "Cow Hay Wood", Poynton. The question is where is/was Cow Hay Wood?

Adjacent entries include "Park Pit", "Cawley Wood Lodge", "Norbury Hollow" and "Anglesea Lodge" - which lies at the north end of Poynton pool.

This - http://maps.nls.uk/view/114582049 - is about the earliest useful map of the area with a wider view here - http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598358

Any ideas? Thanks
Ray

[ScobieDrom]

Still known as Cow Hay Wood at the end of World War 1.  The Poynton War Memorial has a reference to George Platt; Son of Alice Warburton, Cow Hay Wood, Poynton.  Buried in Mendinghem Military Cemetery, Poperinge, Belgium.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them.

[stanmapstone]

In 1911 a Harvey Bennett was living at 36 Cowhey Wood, next to Alice Platt and the enumerator has put the postal address as Carrwood, Poynton. You can see Carrwood on the 1909 map at  https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/393112/385402/12/101234 or http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598358#zoom=4&lat=4505&lon=1152&layers=BT

Stan

[Ray T]

Thanks Stan & ScobieDrom - Carrwood gets an honourable mention of its own in various censuses (censi) but its still difficult to appreciate where Cow Hay Wood might have been. There is no "row of houses" anywhere that fit the bill.

In 1861 Martha was living at No.1 and on the 1911 there are people living at numbers up in the 30s.

I don't suppose we'll ever find out - unless there's an archaeological report in connection with the ring road extension they're currently driving across the site!

[stanmapstone]

There was not a row of houses in Cow Hey Wood, Carrwood in 1911, there were only five houses, numbers 36-40.
They were enumerated between Woodside and Park Pit. You can see Park Pit south of Carrwood on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598358#zoom=3&lat=3834&lon=2145&layers=BT
Stan

[Ray T]

I stand corrected. Must admit I didn't look through them all. Why would they start at No.1 on the 1860s and at No.36 in 1911!

....and there doesn't appear to be an archaeological assessment for the road. The old mill was done umpteen years ago.

Thanks
R

[BumbleB]

Using this map
 
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=16&lat=53.3553&lon=-2.1166&layers=6&right=BingHyb

plus the 1911 Summary book for the area - look for Alice Platt, then you can hazard a guess at the location for Cow Hay Wood (the Enumerator's page actually says Cawley Wood  ).  Again using the 1861 Enumerator's page for the area, you can have a good guess as to the location.  Park Pit, Anglesea, Poynton Hall, Shirt Factory, The Towers, Cawley Lodge give a good pointer as to location.

[Ray T]

Both Cow Hay and Cawley appear on earlier censuses. I know the area reasonably well - used to wander round it as a teenager. Its clear that Cow Hay Wood is somewhere around the properties listed and which can be identified but t does seem strange that a row of several cottages which were there for many years seem to have disappeared from the map.

[stanmapstone]

There are only six properties listed in Cowhay Wood in the 1841, 1851, 1861,1871 census.
In 1871 the houses are called Carr Wood Samuel Platt lives there, also in 1881, where it is called called Cow Hay Wood, at number 38. There are still only six houses, numbered  36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41.
You can see the six back to back houses in Carrwood on the 1874-1875 map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/393112/385402/12/100093 They are still shown on the 1936 O.S. map

Stan