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British Subject born in Holland
« on: Wednesday 21 December 16 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

For some time now I have been aware that my paternal grandfather and a sister were born in Holland (1860s) and I have a copy of the pages from the Dutch register.  My question is - Is it possible to research why the family were there?  Who was his father working for? I believe he was a carriage driver.  Any help or suggestions very gratefully received.

Thank you

PJ
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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 December 16 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

at least you should give some more information.

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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 December 16 16:31 GMT (UK) »
I was really just posing a generalised question, but thanks for asking.

My grandfather was born Robert John Dominy and, with his sister Caroline Emily, had their births registered in Den Haag or 'sGrevenhage
(we would know it as The Hague)  I think in 1865 and 1867 respectively.  They had an older brother Ernest George. 
Father was Robert James and mother Rebecca nee Humfrey.  They went on to have additional children in England after 1869
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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 December 16 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Generically, I would look at:

Any addresses at births or other records that might link to an employer or business
Where and what occupation Robert James had in 1861 and 1871 - any sign of him working for someone who might have also employed him in Holland?
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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 January 17 00:34 GMT (UK) »
's Gravenhage (the formal name) or Den Haag (less formal) has been home to the Government, Politicians, Royalty and the rich for a long time.

So, he was almost certainly working for someone in these echelons of society?
What addresses were given on his Dutch papers.
The same buildings today may provide a clue.
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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 January 17 21:15 GMT (UK) »
  Thank you both for your suggestions.  I am away from home at the moment, but, from what I remember, the Dutch register wasn't easy to read.  I'll report what I can in a couple of days.

As I mentioned in my original posting, ggrandfather was always listed in census returns, and the birth certificates of his UK-born children, as either a carriage driver or a coachman.

PJ
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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 January 17 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi  :)  I wonder if he may possibly have been a coach driver for a rich or affluent employer who was in the Netherlands at that time?

As previously mentioned by jorose, he could have been working for the same person both here and abroad.

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Re: British Subject born in Holland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 January 17 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all for your suggestions.

Now I am back home I have found the links from FamilySearch relating to the births in Holland : -

Robert John - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-10989-43396-5?cc=1831469&wc=10740638      on the bottom right of the screen

Caroline Emily - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-10989-25660-32?cc=1831469&wc=10740643      on the top left of the screen

The two links bring up the one image

Now, Robert James, father,  "progressed" from being described as a "pawnbroker" at the time of his marriage in 1860, a "tobacconist" in the 1861 census to "coachman (deceased)" at the time of the wedding of Caroline in 1902 as well as a couple of census returns in between.

I have some Dutch friends who may be able to translate the information in the register for me, but they probably won't be back until the spring. 

PJ

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