Benjamin arthur defries

[lukeedward]

Hi all

I know that he was a twin born on 18th February 1922. His brother was Sidney Elias Defries. I have tracked Sidney's descendants but they don't know too much about Benjamin.

So Benjamin born in Bow Tower Hamlets 18th Feb 1922

Died Kingston Hospital 27th Feb 2001. Death cert witnessed by Sister in law (sidneys wife) now deceased

He was a civil servant and he or other family members lived at 59 Sandringham Road Worcester Park Surrey

What happened to him between 1922 and 2001. There is a Benjamin Arthur defries shown as getting married in 1970 , but this is the wrong person. Did he get married ? did he have any children? (if he did , why did sister in law appear on death cert)

1939 register shows family living at 185 Bow Common Lane Stepney

1974 death cert for his mother shows 59 sandringham road Worcester park as well.

I seem to have a lot of information but I am getting nowhere

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Luke Edward

[JJen]

Hi Luke,

Have you considered purchasing a copy of Benjamin's Will to see if it holds any clues? -

Probate date 2 May 2001

JJ

[lukeedward]

Hi JJ

That's what I like about roots chat. Sometimes you get so close to things, that you cant see the wood for the trees.
Great suggestion and yes he did leave a will. Here goes another £10

many thanks

Luke Edward

[Ladyhawk]

You may already have these entries but just in case....

Sutton, Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1931-1970
yeard 1967/68/69/70
59 Sandringham Road Ward Worcester Park South
Benjamin A Defries &
Matilda M Defries

from London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Benjamin Arthur & Sidney Elias Defries
Years   1945/46
County or Borough:   Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency:   Stepney
Street address:   185 Bow Common Lane

years 1912 – 1915
Benjamin Defries – no middle name or initial
185 Bow Common

[lizdb]

A death cert in 2001 (I think) should say if he was widowed/bachelor etc.   At least if the informant (sister in law) knew.  What does it say?

[lukeedward]

Many thanks Ladyhawk and Liz

Liz. Death cert only says sister in law but it looks as though she was also living at Sandringham Road in 2001 as Sidney had passed away earlier. She passed away  a few months after Benjamin

Ladyhawk
  So we know in 1946 he was still in Bow, by the time we get to 1967 he is living in Worcester park with his mother Matilda. So it looks as though he stayed there till his death in 2001. So in his late 40's he was living at home with his mother, so it seems reasonable to assume he wasn't married
As JJ suggested I have applied for his will, I get the impression this wont be overly helpful.

Does anyone have the address for where electoral registers for Kingston are kept as it may be worth a visit. Or are these records available on ancestry

many thanks

Luke Edward

[Ladyhawk]

Does anyone have the address for where electoral registers for Kingston are kept as it may be worth a visit. or

 are these records available on ancestry

Ancestry only have years 1886 - 1915

I don't know if this link will be of any help
https://www.kingston.gov.uk/info/200263/voting_in_elections/625/register_to_vote/4

[Ladyhawk]

Or perhaps you could try Surrey History Centre
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j41/

[Ladyhawk]

For info.

his father Henry’s death in 1964 address was of The Brittannia  185 Bow Street Lane

years 1912 – 1915
Benjamin Defries – no middle name or initial
185 Bow Common

The above entry must be his grandfather who died 1922,
 his grandmother Flora who died 1932 was also at that address with Matilda & Henry