Brick Wall > Head - repeat MATHESON/MATHIESON + MCPHIE

[CaroleW]

Hi

I have a Christine/Christina Matheson (or Mathieson) marrying a John McPhie. I estimate births to be around 1835 but have no details on where or when they were married or any other children.

With so little info - how do you know this marriage is correct?

How have you linked the 3  children to Christine Mathieson & John McPhie given they were not with parents in 1861 and Daniel is shown as "Netar" in 1871?

[cherylai9]

Hi

I have a Christine/Christina Matheson (or Mathieson) marrying a John McPhie. I estimate births to be around 1835 but have no details on where or when they were married or any other children.

With so little info - how do you know this marriage is correct?

How have you linked the 3  children to Christine Mathieson & John McPhie given they were not with parents in 1861 and Daniel is shown as "Netar" in 1871?

I don't know that the parent are correct. That's why I have attempted to trace Ann and Marie but am not getting anywhere with any of the family members. Can't even find a birth record for either of them which is frustrating.

Isabella (1860) is my relative so I'm confident she is correct, the father and mother I can't remember how I traced them originally as it was a few years ago but I can't seem to locate any other information that either proves it or disproves it. Just seems to be a dead end.

[CaroleW]

Isabella (1860) is my relative so I'm confident she is correct, the father and mother I can't remember how I traced them originally as it was a few years ago

Isabella was born in Scotland so her parents names and mothers maiden name will be on her birth cert.    You can download a copy cert from Scotlands People by purchasing credits

If Isabella married or died in Scotland - either of those certs will also show her parents names and mothers maiden name

The Isabella in 1871 is 9yrs old so not born 1860.

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

[rosie99]

Could this be a death for May 

March qtr 1922 
May Pettigrew    age 28   
Nantwich reg district    8a   477

There are no deaths for Christine/a McPhie on Scotlands people within the timescales that you would assume. I would have thought she died following birth of Marie so between 1858 and 1871. Can't see anything for her though. Nothing that seems to fit anyway.

I think you are getting muddled by the two posts you have here.  It would have been better if you had asked for separate lookups.

[polarbear]

With spelling as Mcfie, this might be the birth if the Dugald Mcphee age 1 in the 1861 census.
There are other births listed for thes parents on the familysearch website, including Archibald. This birth appears to be in the same place the family is living at in the census.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F79Z-P5G

PB

[cherylai9]

I checked out Family Search as suggested. The father is listed as Daniel McFie but I have the marriage cert for Isabella and George Steel confirming that the father's name was John McPhie. Looking again at the certificate though I can see that Christina's surname may not be Matheson after all.. looks like McCallum but really hard to read the writing.

The cert also shows that at the time of George and Isabella's marriage, both Isabella's parents were deceased which ties in with my earlier suspicions that they were living with the aunt and uncle in Glasgow as per the census. Marriage was in 1878 and the parents were deceased prior to 1871 census.

So John McPhie and potentially Christina / Christine McCallum?? Nothing on Scotlands People.

I really do appreciate everyone's suggestions.

[isobelw]

I think there are some transcription problems with the 1871 census. Findmypast has them all as Mcfin with the three children - Marion, Archd and Isabella showing as sons and daughters of Daniel and Isabella. Using the index to Scotlandspeople they seem to be transcribed as McLin with the three young family members transcribed as Archd, Marion and Isabella. Think the original would be worth a look to try and ascertain exactly what it says.
Isobel

[isobelw]

From Familysearch - children of Daniel McFie/ McPhie and Isabella Cameron
Archibald McFie born 1855 in Milton
Marion Stewart McPhie born 1858 Anderston
Dugald McFie born 1860 Anderston
Daniel McFie born 1862 Anderston
Isabella McPherson McFie born 1864 Anderston
isobel

[isobelw]

I don't think the Isabella who married George Steel in 1878 is the same one as in the 1871 census above. Although Ancestry 1871 transcription has her as age 9 she is shown as age 7 in both the  Findmypast and Scotlandspeople transcriptions which would tally with the year of birth ( 1864) of Isabella Mcpherson McFie, daughter of Daniel and Isabella.  She would  only have been 14 in 1878 so too young to marry George.
Isobel