Brick Wall > Head - repeat MATHESON/MATHIESON + MCPHIE

[cherylai9]

I have tried but am getting nowhere fast with a line of my tree.

I have a Christine/Christina Matheson (or Mathieson) marrying a John McPhie. I estimate births to be around 1835 but have no details on where or when they were married or any other children.

They had 3 girls that I can find Isabella, Ann R and Marie. For some reason the 3 girls end up living with their aunt and uncle - Isabella and Daniel Netar in Glasgow by 1951. Daniel is down in the census as being born around 1827 in Rhitany, Buteshire... no details of this location and nothing that I can see in way of birth records. Was hoping I could trace his marriage to Isabella to confirm her parents and then work back that way.

Can anyone see what I am missing with this one?

Second issue I am having relates to my great grandmother's parents.

Margaret M Pettigrew was born 1912 in Liverpool. I had Peter Pettigrew as her father and May O'Conner as her mother. I believe both to have born in Ireland, but can't get any information on them at all. Given that it's a relatively recent search you'd have thought it would be simple to trace this line but I can't seem to get further with it.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[CaroleW]

Margaret M Pettigrew was born 1912 in Liverpool. I had Peter Pettigrew as her father and May O'Conner as her mother.

Marriages June qtr 1916   
Peter Pettigrew/Margaret O'Connor West Derby    8b   883

The birth reg for Margaret in 1912 shows mothers maiden name as Connor - not O'Connor - but there is no Pettigrew/Connor marriage

[CaroleW]

Dates seem a bit out here even if you mean 1851 rather than 1951.  Where and when were the 3 girls born?

I have a Christine/Christina Matheson (or Mathieson) marrying a John McPhie. I estimate births to be around 1835 but have no details on where or when they were married or any other children.

They had 3 girls that I can find Isabella, Ann R and Marie. For some reason the 3 girls end up living with their aunt and uncle - Isabella and Daniel Netar in Glasgow by 1951. Daniel is down in the census as being born around 1827 in Rhitany, Buteshire... no details of this location and nothing that I can see in way of birth records. Was hoping I could trace his marriage to Isabella to confirm her parents and then work back that way.

If Christina & John were both born around 1835 - their daughters could not have been living with relatives in 1851 as Christina and John could not have married until the mid-late 1850's

[rosie99]

Could this be a death for May 

March qtr 1922 
May Pettigrew    age 28   
Nantwich reg district    8a   477

[CaroleW]

For reference

1871 census for Glasgow - all b Glasgow except Daniel

Daniel Netar    44  blacksmith b Buteshire
Isabella     45
Ann R Mcphie   15
Marie Mcphie   13
Isabella Mcphie   9
Glasgow Barony ED 70 Page 20 Line 3

Have you looked on Scotlands People for a death for Christine between 1861-1871?

[CaroleW]

Is this 1861 entry  a coincidence - all b Barony except Daniel

I Dock St Barony Glasgow

Daniel Mcphee   34 blacksmith b Rothesay Buteshire
Isabella Mcphee   29 
Archibald Mcphee 5
Mary Mcphee   3
Dugald Mcphee   1
Glasgow Barony ED 54 Page 4 Line 8

[cherylai9]

Apologies you are correct. I meant the 1871 census.

I have attempted to search scotlands people for Isabella and Ann's birth to confirm that I definitely have the parents correct. Not getting far though.

I found the birth of an Isabella McPhie in 1861, but wrong child.

[cherylai9]

Is this 1861 entry  a coincidence - all b Barony except Daniel

I Dock St Barony Glasgow

Daniel Mcphee   34 blacksmith b Rothesay Buteshire
Isabella Mcphee   29 
Archibald Mcphee 5
Mary Mcphee   3
Dugald Mcphee   1
Glasgow Barony ED 54 Page 4 Line 8

This has thrown a spanner in the works. Hopefully this is a coincidence, the names I imagine are quite common, but that the ages are similar is worrying and Daniel being from Bute too...

I took Rhitany from the 1871 census to mean Rothesay, but unsure if both of these are the same family. Spelling of surname is different

[cherylai9]

Could this be a death for May 

March qtr 1922 
May Pettigrew    age 28   
Nantwich reg district    8a   477

There are no deaths for Christine/a McPhie on Scotlands people within the timescales that you would assume. I would have thought she died following birth of Marie so between 1858 and 1871. Can't see anything for her though. Nothing that seems to fit anyway.