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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 11 December 16 10:38 GMT (UK) »
I can understand the urge to take one's lineage back to some landmark personage. 

I don't think there is such an "urge" here.  I didn't get that impression from the OP at all, simply that he wanted people to look for any possible errors.

One of my ancestors is a Benbow.  All the Benbows seem to trace back to the same family, two or three members of which emigrated to the USA, so there is a lot of American interest. 

My goal was to connect my branch to the main family, since nobody seemed to share my little clutch of Benbows.  Eventually I did so by "killing off" a first wife, whose burial was buried in non-conformist records. 

But further back there's not so much interest for me, as it's been researched to death by people hoping to trace their ancestry to the famous Admiral.  He doesn't seem to have had any surviving sons, so good luck with that   
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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 11 December 16 11:24 GMT (UK) »
As with any investigative task you have to go where the evidence leads. If it leads to a hand loom weaver in Bradford you can then research what life was like for a hand loom weaver. If it leads to Royalty surely you have to do the same. This is where the OP's evidence has led & he wants to test it's validity. To discard certain types of class or people because it doesn't sit well is taking the blinkered approach.
The OP may not be that bothered whether he has Royalty in his family but that's what he's found.
Instead of being given help & advice this thread has become sneering & at times vitriolic.
I think the OP can only be commended for not rising to the bait & behaving in a perfectly reasonable manner. A lesson there perhaps.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 11 December 16 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Well said, Jim.
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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 11 December 16 11:47 GMT (UK) »

chris_49 - perhaps 1/8th of your family is related to Rees-Mogg, and the other 7/8ths to his Nanny :)

Yes, very likely - though statistically we're all likely to be descended from Henry I. Otherwise, I never claimed to be directly related to the man - though we do both have Rees ancestry, one of the less common Welsh surnames, so anything is possible.
 
Skelcey (Skelsey Skelcy Skeley Shelsey Kelcy Skelcher) - Warks, Yorks, Lancs <br />Hancox - Warks<br />Green - Warks<br />Draper - Warks<br />Lynes - Warks<br />Hudson - Warks<br />Morris - Denbs Mont Salop <br />Davies - Cheshire, North Wales<br />Fellowes - Cheshire, Denbighshire<br />Owens - Cheshire/North Wales<br />Hicks - Cornwall<br />Lloyd and Jones (Mont)<br />Rhys/Rees (Mont)


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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 11 December 16 11:55 GMT (UK) »
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chris_49 - perhaps 1/8th of your family is related to Rees-Mogg, and the other 7/8ths to his Nanny :)
Yes, very likely - though statistically we're all likely to be descended from Henry I. Otherwise, I never claimed to be directly related to the man - though we do both have Rees ancestry, one of the less common Welsh surnames, so anything is possible.

Perhaps you should start another thread. I doubt the OP has any interest in someone you're not related to or even someone you are.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 11 December 16 12:50 GMT (UK) »
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chris_49 - perhaps 1/8th of your family is related to Rees-Mogg, and the other 7/8ths to his Nanny :)
Yes, very likely - though statistically we're all likely to be descended from Henry I. Otherwise, I never claimed to be directly related to the man - though we do both have Rees ancestry, one of the less common Welsh surnames, so anything is possible.

Perhaps you should start another thread. I doubt the OP has any interest in someone you not related to or even someone you are.

Well I was replying to a response from the OP as it happens. This is now looking like a Lighter Side thread though
Skelcey (Skelsey Skelcy Skeley Shelsey Kelcy Skelcher) - Warks, Yorks, Lancs <br />Hancox - Warks<br />Green - Warks<br />Draper - Warks<br />Lynes - Warks<br />Hudson - Warks<br />Morris - Denbs Mont Salop <br />Davies - Cheshire, North Wales<br />Fellowes - Cheshire, Denbighshire<br />Owens - Cheshire/North Wales<br />Hicks - Cornwall<br />Lloyd and Jones (Mont)<br />Rhys/Rees (Mont)

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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #51 on: Monday 12 December 16 09:57 GMT (UK) »
You know, when you think how much hassle people go through, trying to "prove" royal - or even noble - descent, it makes me ever so glad that there simply is NOT anything higher than the odd (very odd, I suspect) "Yeoman Farmer" anywhere, no matter how far back I manage to trundle along the family lines - eeeh, I am common, me!

My g-g-g-grandfather Nicholas was a 'yeoman' for all his life in Devon, farming 95 acres.  My dictionary definition is 'a small farmer who cultivates his own land - specifically belonging to a class of English freeholders ranking below the gentry and formerly qualified by owning property worth 40 shillings a year to enjoy certain legal privileges, such as jury duty'.  So quite a decent position really.
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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #52 on: Monday 12 December 16 13:09 GMT (UK) »
When you consider that Henry VIII had his wife executed for, amongst other things, having sex with her brother or the questioned paternity of Edward III, James IV, James VIII, Elizabeth I & even Prince Albert,  etc', etc', etc'. Any claim to so-called  "Royal Blood" in ones family tree is just pure fantasy island.

Alley cats spring readily to mind here. "It's a wise bairn that kens his ain faither!"  ;D

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Re: Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« Reply #53 on: Monday 12 December 16 13:15 GMT (UK) »
When you consider that Henry VIII had his wife executed for, amongst other things, having sex with her brother or the questioned paternity of Edward III, James IV, James VIII, Elizabeth I & even Prince Albert,  etc', etc', etc'. Any claim to so-called  "Royal Blood" in ones family tree is just pure fantasy island.

Alley cats spring readily to mind here. "It's a wise bairn that kens his ain faither!"  ;D

Skoosh.

If you take that attitude, we're all wasting our time then.
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