Am I of (proveable) royal descent?

[jim1]

I don't believe the poster said he was setting out to try & find a line back to Royalty but having established a line back to Nobility is simply testing it's validity.

[KGarrad]

Re: Errors in Burke's Peerage:

See: http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-01/essay-7.html
http://ancestryforums.custhelp.com/posts/9573ad8370
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/2nd-june-1832/19/burkes-peerage
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Burkes-Peerage

and so forth

[Andrew Tarr]

Ten generations back (about 3 centuries) you will have had 1024 ancestors, and another 3 centuries over a million.  In 1400 that would have been a significant fraction of the British population, even allowing for the strong probability that many will have been immigrants.  So the chance that a few were of aristocratic lineage must be quite high, especially since many of the men put themselves about a bit .... 

[Greensleeves]

Thanks Andrew for doing the maths!  I was going to make a similar comment, and was just getting ready to find  out how many ancestors you would have if you went back to the 1400s or thereabouts.  I suspect the chances are that, given the availability of records,  most of us could trace our lineage back to royalty.  In theory.   However, any ancestral line will always be subject to  the maxim:  'Mummy's baby; Daddy's... maybe.'

[Andrew Tarr]

However, any ancestral line will always be subject to  the maxim:  'Mummy's baby; Daddy's... maybe.'

Or the old saying 'it's a wise child that knows its own father' - whatever that means, exactly?

[LizzieW]

Ironically, it is the partner of my g.grandmother (the one whose line goes back centuries) who I can't find anything about.  He is my g.grandfather but as they didn't marry I have no idea who his father was - and if they'd married he may not have told the truth - so I can't find him before his name appears on my gran's birth certificate in 1884.  He did stay with the family and continued in the family home after the death of my g.gran until his own death in 1935.  All I know from census is that he said he was born in Middlesex and Bethnel Green, but with a common name and all the brains of Rootschatters he remains a mystery.

[TheNineteenth]

Jim1 - thanks for the info on the apparent poor quality of Noble's Memoirs. There is very little I have used him for, but used him I have. And I need to find a way around that, I think. Just in case I've just copied his error!

BillyBlue - I don't give a damn for being descended from royalty except
1) It's fun to have a coin of King John and know that's my 29xGreat Grandfather
2) When you're asked to do those ice-breaker questions of 'two things that are true, and one that is a lie' it's fun for that, too.
But otherwise, I'm much more impressed by my Cromwell connection.

ThrelfallYorky - I was in the same boat as you. I researched my tree from around 1998 and found nothing more than yeomanary and...sometimes...people who could VOTE! And then just a massive breakthrough last year when I found Mary Tabrum's maiden name. There's hope for everyone!

clairec666 - Yes, poorly annotated on my behalf. I did all the digging on Frances many years ago, and for some reason haven't carried those findings through to the spreadsheet all the others are in. Rest assured, I did my homework! Frances appears to have run away from home and married a gypsy man (Tommy Cooper - not that one). Hence her kids are born strewn across the UK until she eventually makes it to Liverpool. I have Frances' origins as Orsett (or Ossett. I forget which) from the censuses, and her age, etc. The one whose baptism fits all that is the only feasible one.

Andrew Tarr - yes, I believe everyone does have an aristocratic lineage...somewhere. The trick is in getting past the c1600 parish registers and onto those Burke's peerage lines. The gap can be insurmountable.

[Billyblue]

Well, supposedly we are all descended from Adam and Eve, if you read / believe the Bible     

So we all must have some connection with royalty along the way     

Otherwise you'll have to be like me.  Billy Blue was my GGGF so I can legitimately claim to have Blue blood       

Dawn M

[Rosinish]

Just been reading this topic but what obviously caught my eye was...

"Am I of (proveable) royal descent?"

This seems a strange question in my book as it is already showing doubt?

"of proveable" would tell me that it isn't proven?

I'm directly descended from a King William (which I can prove) but strangely enough I have no record with the word "King" attached   

If you have all the paperwork up to where it's necessary & can't definitively get further then you may want to reassure yourself with DNA which seems to be the "in thing" now?

Annie