Help with the Wicken family of Westerham late 1700s to 1800s

[keyboard86]

Hi is Thomas William Wicken 29th April 1838 Westerham Father Henry Mother Eleanor/Ellen one of yours? In 1851 census Thomas is with Ellen in French Street, the same as Thomas/Mary 1841?
Keyboard86

[jonwicken]

Yes they are indeed part of this family.

Henry was the son of Thomas and Mary Wicken who was baptised in 1806. He died in 1848.

Thomas and Mary's children were:

Charlotte Wicken/Still 1798–1872
John Wicken 1800–1875
Henry Wicken 1806–1848
Sarah Wicken 1808–
Samuel Wicken 1809–
Phoebe Wicken 1811–
Harriet Wicken 1813–

I know about what happened to the first three but not about the youngest four.

I also suspect that there were further pregnancies given the gaps in births so the burials at Westerham would be really helpful trying to piece it all together.

Thanks again for your replies,
Jon

[keyboard86]

Hi again, just clearing up loose ends, am I correct Henry Wicken married Eleanor Cuthmore 5th November 1837 Leigh, Kent was he a Widower, as a George Wicken b c 1832 Brasted (Edit this s/b 1842 Brasted)? and if he died 1848 who is the 7 month old Amy? Wicken b Westerham in 1851 Census HO107/1613/474/17
Keyboard86

EDIT 1841 census :-

Henry WICKING 30
Ellen 20
Thomas 3
James 1
Residing at Hogtrough Hill, Brasted
Census ref HO107/480/ 5/11/ 14

[keyboard86]

Hi again, still clearing up, when Thomas William Wicken married Ellen Friend 1862, the witnesses were George Wicken and Ellen Duggan, they married 9th January 1864 St George, Camberwell Father of George, Henry Wicken occ Labourer
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

OK found Amy in 1861 census, Ellen Wicken married John Meeks December qtr 1851, in 1861 census John MERKS 42, Ellen 44 b Westerham and Amy 10 b Westerham plus siblings from c 1853
Census ref RG09/489/80/23
Keyboard86

[jonwicken]

Thanks, all.

So it seems Henry and Eleanor/Ellen Wicken had the following children:

Thomas William Wicken 1838–1906
James Wicken 1840–1848
George Wicken 1842–
Mary Wicken 1844–1848
Eliza Wicken 1846–1848

James, Mary and Eliza's deaths are all recorded in the June 1848 quarter, while their father Henry's death is recorded in the September 1848. All sounds like a rather tragic period for the family. I wonder if it was disease or an accident that killed them?

After Henry's death Ellen had another daughter named Amy Amelia Wicken who was baptised on 8 September 1850 at Westerham just as the daughter of Ellen.

It would therefore seem she was illegitimate and not Henry's daughter and so raises the possibility that the  March 1849 birth for female Wicken might be her birth, no that of Phoebe.

Thanks so much for looking,
Jon

I still have no idea what happened to Henry's younger siblings and would love to know what happened to them.

Thanks again,
Jon

[crisane]

There was a second outbreak of cholera in London in 1848-49 and  14,137 people died.

The Metropolitan Sewers Commission was created in 1848 and finally it was required that house drains and cesspools be connected to the sewers.

http://www.choleraandthethames.co.uk/

[keyboard86]

Hi again,  an Anthony Peacock married a Phoebe Wickens 9th April 1831 Sundridge, 1851 Phoebe b Westerham
Keyboard86

[redtonyt]

On the Surrey Marriage Index there is the following marriage, at Wandsworth, Surrey

1796 Nov 27 Thomas Wickens to Mary Westen

A possibility 

Tony