Eileen Mann

[thomasina]

Hi
Still researching Eileen Mann/Venner/Naylor found lot about her she was found guilty in 1956 and spent 5 years in prison this I no I have been onto the Old Bailey but they wont release any more on this case till 2041 not much use there, what I would really like to find now is who was Herbert White? who she lived with. He was born about 1908/09 died June 1956 the case files that Old Bailey have let me have state he had a daughter? he was a window cleaner and lived in Hampstead Heath road that is all I have to go on any one fancy a look for me please? I have the 3 newspaper reports already.
Jean

[carol8353]

Hi there,

Do you have a number at Hampstead Road (not Hampstead Heath Road!) that he lived at.
It is near Euston Station St Pancras.

[thomasina]

Hi
Yes your correct with road name and I have no number this address is taken from the newspaper reports, yes also correct was near St Pancras.
Jean

[rosie99]

Do you have the death certificate of Herbert

[jonwarrn]

The only one I can see in Hampstead Road in 1955/56 is Herbert B White at number 189. With two Ferrimans, no other Whites, and no Eileen.
Not sure what happened with that address later!

Could he be the Herbert B White who married Gladys E Turley in Pancras in June qtr 1939?
Probably that is Gladys Emma Turley born in Pancras in 1916.
Looking for them in the free index to the 1939 Register, I think they are living in Pancras
Herbert B White, born 1909
Gladys E White, born 1916
The free index on findmypast gives address in Hampstead Road.

[thomasina]

Thanks for your help I will have to get Herbert's death certificate I have been In touch with the old Bailey they may release some bits from the murder trial.
Will look into the info you have provided

[jonwarrn]

Update
Gladys E White listed with Herbert B White in 1954 at 189 Hampstead Rd.
Can't get hold of 1955
No Gladys in 1956, just Herbert B

Haven't found them on the 1939 electoral register.
Gladys Emma Turley at 116 Drummond Road in 1938 (South West St Pancras, Polling District T)
There's a Herbert Benson White at 12 Edward Street in 1937, renamed Varndell Street in 1938 (he is still there). That's in South West St Pancras, Polling District R, and is off Hampstead Road (see Google Maps!)

May not be the right chap of course. Good luck!

[rosie99]

Just in case 
Gladys Emma White
Birth   05/11/1916
Death 06/2003
Islington London

TURLEY, GLADYS  EMMA     mmn JONES 
1916  Dec Quarter in ST. PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 36

[jonwarrn]

Good find, Rosie.
If there's no sighting later of this Herbert B (possibly Benson) White, that would be a good sign. Don't know who he was!
John