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Offline Edward Scott

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #27 on: Monday 12 December 16 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Having looked at this yet again, I think there 8 letters in the surname and my current feeling is as follows:-

Tr**t*ie or Tr**ti*e

The 4th letter may be an 'a' although everyone other one I can see in the document is fully formed.

I have attached a larger chunk of the document and still hope that someone can work this one out.

thanks again to all

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Jobson - Lincolnshire, Suffolk
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Wayet - Lincolnshire

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #28 on: Monday 12 December 16 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for posting a larger extract.

Having looked at this yet again, I think there 8 letters in the surname and my current feeling is as follows:-

Tr**t*ie or Tr**ti*e

The 4th letter may be an 'a' although everyone other one I can see in the document is fully formed.

I tend to agree with you. But there are at least 3 different styles of capital T here, and the only capital P that's showing is rather different from the initial letter of Mary's surname. So it's hard to compare letter-forms and come up with anything conclusive.

That said, the fuller extract you've posted does seem to show that the bequest to Mary has been squeezed in between the lines. That, and the need to 'avoid' a descender from the line above, might account for some distortion. But it's difficult to come up with a likely name beginning Tre... that fits the shape.

Sorry I can't offer anything further.

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 04:40 GMT (UK) »
The phrase four lines up from the bottom of the new extract is worth close examination:

...p(re)tence of my receiving any rent...

Two examples of an old style c and two examples of an inverted n (following an e).

With these exemplars (and a sense of embarrassment at being the cause of all the trouble) I'm not unhappy to say that Mary's name, following the initial, could well be ?rentice.

Is Trentice a known name?

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again.

HD, I understand your comments and no apology is required, your assistance has been appreciated. Trentice is not a name known to me and nor does it appear on the usual websites as a Lincolnshire possibility.

BB, as you pointed out there are 3 different styles of 'T' so (with apologies) I am now starting to believe this may be a 'P' which takes us back to Prentice.

I can see that there are 2 MP's born in the right area that could fit. Now I just have to find a marriage for her parents that makes some sense

thanks again & regards

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Jobson - Lincolnshire, Suffolk
Needham - Lincolnshire
Wayet - Lincolnshire

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 12:46 GMT (UK) »
BB, as you pointed out there are 3 different styles of 'T' so (with apologies) I am now starting to believe this may be a 'P' which takes us back to Prentice.

On balance, this is probably the most sensible solution.

As we all seem to be offering apologies, I'd like to add mine, especially to JenB  :)

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Prawn Cocktail got there first  :D  :D (reply #3)
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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Indeed! To both of you, then  :)

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Taking the risk that this may generate another raft of apologies ;), are we totally sure that Timothy is a 'Hort'?

I cannot see any other option but am currently unable to find anyone (him, parents, siblings, etc) that could even possibly be a link.

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Jobson - Lincolnshire, Suffolk
Needham - Lincolnshire
Wayet - Lincolnshire

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Well sorted you lot

. . . I have been watching with interest but unable to suggest anything intelligent!     :)

 
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