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Offline Edward Scott

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Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« on: Monday 05 December 16 14:26 GMT (UK) »
I would appreciate some help with 2 surnames from a Lincolnshire will from 1700.

The first is the surname of "my Grandchild Mary" in the middle of the second line of the attachment. It looks like Thrakie but I am not convinced this is correct.

The second is the surname of 'my Grandchild Timothy' on the first line of the second attachment. I think it is Hort but I cannot find anything that could match this as a family name so now wondering if this is wrong.

Your help, as usual, is gratefully appreciated

thanks

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 December 16 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi, could Timothy's surname be "Holt"?

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 December 16 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your reply.

The third letter appears to match the 'r' in Apprenticeship and improved. The 'l' in Grandchild looks quite different.

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 December 16 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Could it be Mary Prentice?

Timothy looks like Hort to me too
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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 December 16 14:55 GMT (UK) »
The first surname is Prentice. There is a descender from the line above which is confusing matters!

I'm pretty sure the second one is Hort.
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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 December 16 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, I'll see if Mary Prentice appears in the right place(s) at the right time. Although if she is like some of the others I have lost in the late 1600's, then I may start to believe in little green men & spaceships.

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 December 16 15:40 GMT (UK) »
I can see two problems with identifying the name as Prentice.

First, the n is inverted.  That's common enough in the C17th, but I have scanned both extracts and can't find another inverted n.

Secondly, the putative c is of a style which again is quite common, but no other example of that style can be found in either extract.

Beyond that, we have a good number of the ce letter combination for comparison, in pence and apiece.  None of them look like the ce in Prentice.

I would like to see another capital P from this writer, if you can find one in the document.


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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 December 16 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your reply. I think I understand it  :)

Capital in 'Partney' near the middle of the second line

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Re: Help needed with 2 surnames from a 1700 will
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 December 16 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Edward,

It's quite different.  So, I recommend caution with Prentice.

I'm not sure what the name is.  It's unhelpful that he doesn't cross his t.  Will keep working on it.

One other thing in your last extract - another mention of Timothy.  In this one, it looks more like ffort = Fort.  So I recommend you check for both.