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Re: Eighth Army abbreviations
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Warwick Castle  is one of the possible candidates  to be  ship   H7
Warwick Castle  was one of the ships  in Convoy WS19P


see:    http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/2427.html 

For photograph   and description   of Warwick Castle   as a Troop ship
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich

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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 11:24 GMT (UK) »
The sinking of the Warwick Castle in November 1942 has absolutely nothing to do with this thread which concern the arrival in N Africa of a convoy in July 1942. I hae asked the moderators to look at your post.

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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Warwick Castle  was one of the ships in convoy WS 19P
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
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« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 11:52 GMT (UK) »
Until 13 July only when it was detached from WS19P after Durban to go to Mombasa so not on the convoy from that point. 
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« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 12:56 GMT (UK) »
I note the thread has been sent sideway's yet again. This is getting beyond belief!

Scouse Boy,  WARWICK CASTLE CANNOT BE CONSIDERED A CONTENDER FOR HMT H7. APART FROM ANYTHING ELSE SHE DEPARTED FROM GLASGOW NOT LIVERPOOL.

Max, I have sent you more pages from the War Diary the rest to follow shortly. In later pages TANAG is referred to as TAHAG. A typo I believe.
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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Seaweed, email reply on the way.

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Re: Eighth Army abbreviations
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Good morning from Sunny Canada!

How wonderful that the threads of this marvellous story are still being woven by the intrepid military historian/detectives!

Fabulous. MUCH APPRECIATED - once again!!

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Re: Eighth Army abbreviations
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 15:48 GMT (UK) »
It may be possible to narrow down our short list of likely ships.  Does the war diary mention a stop in Capetown?  According to a website I have found on the routing of WS19P from Freetown, both Laconia and Santa Rosa went to Capetown first and only Christiaan Huygens of our three was routed direct to Durban.
Just by the way Scouseboy was right about the involvement of HMS Rodney in the escort.  HMS Nelson was the main escort from UK to Freetown where she was joined by HMS Rodney.  Both battleships then escorted the convoy as far as 12 degrees South in the Gulf of Guinea off the Angolan coast before detaching for Gibraltar where they were committed to the August 'Pedestal' convoy to Malta.  That last a little bit off piste I know but it helps to paint in the picture.

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Re: Eighth Army abbreviations
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 19:13 GMT (UK) »
It may be possible to narrow down our short list of likely ships.  Does the war diary mention a stop in Capetown?  According to a website I have found on the routing of WS19P from Freetown, both Laconia and Santa Rosa went to Capetown first and only Christiaan Huygens of our three was routed direct to Durban.
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Could you give us a link to the website you quoted? The War Diary says they sailed directly to Durban after replenishment at Freetown.
What is interesting is that the movement card of CHRISTIAAN HUYGENS taken from BT389/35/119 coincides with the dates arrival and departure at Freetown, Durban and the date of arrival in Suez as the War Diary. It also states, she was part of WS19P.
I would say, given what we have. There is a strong possibility that CHRISTIAAN HUYGENS was His Majesty's  Troopship H7 for the voyage in question.

what do other's think?
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