William ballard b ireland circa 1816

[Davee g]

Hi
My gr gr gr grandfather was william ballard who came to liverpool from ireland. He married jane dawson and  had son called william francis.they were tinsmiths and rumour has it they were romanys.only assuming william came from cork area. Ballard is english name and he may hav been of english descent. I did read that by 1802 one quarter of population of ireland had english and scottish ancestry.
Any help would be appreciated

[crisane]

Just to put a time frame to this query
This is your William francis - mother's maiden name confirmed on GRO index
William Francis son of William and Jane Ballard (nee Dawson) birth registered March 1/4 1849 Liverpool vol 20 page 264

[Davee g]

Yes i hav the birth certificate

[crisane]

Do you have them on any census earlier than the 1871 because I am having difficulty finding them.
 RG10 Piece 3789 Folio 17 Page 27
 I see the 1871 just says William senior born Ireland and Jane born Island of Jersey.
Do you have a marriage record for them?

[Davee g]

I hav them in 1851. Never found marriage details. Williams grandson was john richard ballard who died on somme winning military medal. He moved his family to wrexham  and he was a tinsmith. Hes on the roll of honour at liverpool town hall although he was in royal welsh fusiliers

[ballydw]

Hi
My gr gr gr grandfather was william ballard who came to liverpool from ireland. He married jane dawson and  had son called william francis.they were tinsmiths and rumour has it they were romanys.only assuming william came from cork area. Ballard is english name and he may hav been of english descent. I did read that by 1802 one quarter of population of ireland had english and scottish ancestry.
Any help would be appreciated

Hi why do you think William originated in Cork area?  www.nationalarchives.ie has 2 records in Tithe Applotment for Ballard in Parish of Moragh which is near Bandon Co Cork.
Same site for Griffith Valuation records/ has several records for Ballard both as Landlord/Tenant in Co Cork.  You can also view 1901 & 1911 Census same site. Cant see any Ballards in Co Cork in 1901 & just 1 in 1911.

[crisane]

Other children to this couple which may help find them before 1871
Elizabeth Ballard March 1/4 1847 Liverpool 20/384
Jane Ballard birth reg March 1/4 1854 8b/188 Liverpool
Margaret birth reg Dec 1/4 1859 Liverpool 8b/82

[crisane]

I hav them in 1851. Never found marriage details. Williams grandson was john richard ballard who died on somme winning military medal. He moved his family to wrexham  and he was a tinsmith. Hes on the roll of honour at liverpool town hall although he was in royal welsh fusiliers

Can you give us the reference details for the 1851 census please?
As Jane was from Jersey it may be that they married there.

[crisane]

Other children to this couple which may help find them before 1871
Elizabeth Ballard March 1/4 1847 Liverpool 20/384
Jane Ballard birth reg March 1/4 1854 8b/188 Liverpool
Margaret birth reg Dec 1/4 1859 Liverpool 8b/82

There is a possible death for Jane Ballard in Liverpool March 1/4 1854 but I can't see one for Elizabeth 1847 - 1871