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William ballard
« on: Monday 28 November 16 18:41 GMT (UK) »
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My gr gr gr grandfather was william ballard born ireland circa 1816. Married to jane dawson from jersey. Hav heard talk that he was a romany. I think because he was a tinsmith. I would like to know more. Anyhow ballard is an english name and william prob descende fro english settlers in ireland from time of cromwell. I hav read that one quarter of population of ireland by 1802 was of english and Scottish blood. Just because he was a tinsmith surely doesnt mean he was a gypsy or romany????

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Re: William ballard
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 16 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

I see you have posted a reply on this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734041.new#new

You have posted on the Lancashire board so can you tell us what connection your ancestors had to Lancashire?

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Re: William ballard
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 16 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello
William was living in liverpool in 1851 and his som william f ballard was born in liverpool his son john richard ballard mm also born in liverpool and his daughter (my gran) eleanor ballard also born there.
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Re: William ballard
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 16 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Would also like to find where william married jane dawson

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Re: William ballard
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:48 GMT (UK) »
I can see them in 1841 living in Jordan Street Liverpool, William the father's occupation on the original image was Tinman. They were all born in Ireland, William, Ann, Margaret, Richard, Robert, Catherine and Letitia here's a transcript:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQL9-1KT


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Re: William ballard
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 November 16 19:52 GMT (UK) »
I see from Blues post they are all from Ireland
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: William ballard
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 November 16 20:03 GMT (UK) »
I think this is the William who was married to Jane from Jersey. On the original image it might say Tin Plate Worker:-

1871

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBX1-B51


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Re: William ballard
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 November 16 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes this is them in 1871. I hav this copy already. Only william born in ireland. Would like to know where in ireland he was from and whether he was a romany gypsy as i hav been told.

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Re: William ballard
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 November 16 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Were they Protestants? Looking at the Irish Census for 1901 most Ballards were Protestants living in the north. Looking at the surname on "Irish Ancestors" for the 19th century they are mainly located in the cities ie Cork, Belfast, Dublin and Limerick:-

https://www.johngrenham.com/

It's always difficult researching Irish people that far back as there's not many records available.


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