John Axon family history and wartime service

[seaweed]

I am a little confused to say the least. Do you have a positive date of birth or Discharge A number for your John Axon?
The only Record I can find in the series BT390 is this one. He would be a little young to marry Glady's
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_ep=axon&_cr1=bt390&_dss=range&_ro=any

BT390 covers Merchant seamen who served under T124X agreements. WW2 Merchant seamen who served on Merchant Ships requisitioned  or commandeered by the Royal Navy. They kept their Merchant Navy pay and conditions but were subject to Royal Navy orders and discipline. (see also BT382 below)

BT391 Are similar to the records in BT372 and Covers Merchant seamen who took part in combined operations in Europe, during and after D-Day.

BT372 Covers Merchant Seamen's "Pouches" 1941-1972. Pouches can contain MN ID Card complete with photo details of qualifications gained and other euphoria. Also if a person had  MN service before 1941 his/her records should be included in the "Pouch" Many of these records have been lost or destroyed.

BT382 Covers Merchant Seamen 1941-1972 and is divided into 7 sub series. Basically this series contains CRS10 forms, catalogued alphabetically in blocks of 60 names. They give the persons name, rank and details of vessels served on with the dates and places of engagement and discharge.  This series also contains (In part 7) some records of seamen who served under T124 agreements. If it applied to your man it should be here
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11001344

For a detailed explanation see TNA's Research Guides.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/merchant-seaman-serving-after-1917/

I repeat. Unless you have a positive date and place of birth or a positive Discharge A number you will be forever running round in circles.

[Gillum]

Hi Julie
Yes spot on.  John Axon Christening 7 Apr 1912,  Date of Birth, Father Henry, Ashton under Lyne (Registration District for Audenshaw - all confirmed on the Marriage certificate I have.
No problem got a print out also from FindMyPast.  Many thanks you confirm Sarah Elizabeth as mother maidenname given on FindMyPast as Vernon. No need for Local lookup.
Cheers
David

[Gillum]

Hi Cath151
Thank for this reply cath but I don't think this is my John. As I have said on another reply Gladys is still living, a widow and has never been abroad. She is suffering from dementia and her memory is suspect unfortunately, most info I have obtained is from her children.
Cheers anyway
David

[Gillum]

Hi Cath
Your reply #15 agreed see my response re your reply #13
Thanks again
David

[Gillum]

Hi Julie
Re the Probate for a John axon died 1957 doubtful, Gladys is still alive with severe dementia surely she would been informed and her children told. (Will place on back burner)
Thanks
David
 

[heatherjulie]

Hi Julie
Re the Probate for a John axon died 1957 doubtful, Gladys is still alive with severe dementia surely she would been informed and her children told. (Will place on back burner)
Thanks
David

It isn't him, I found a marriage for him to another Gladys.
 Heather

[heatherjulie]

Baptism
St Michael and All Angels, Ashton under Lyne
7th April 1912
John Axon born 14th March
Father Henry Axon Inn Keeper
Mother Sarah Elizabeth
Address The Clarence Hotel, Old Cross Street
Baptised by AD Johnson

I don't know whether this clarifies things or not.

Heather

[heatherjulie]

I don't know if this has already been mentioned but it looks like the John born in 1912 Ashton had a brother Harry born in 1904 Manchester mmn Vernon.

[Gillum]

Hi Julie
Yes John had a Brother Harry.  Tell me more PM details please if OK.
David