Can you help me decipher this name (scan of Marriage cert.)

[Clincher]

In spite of the inconsistency with the T in Tracey I still believe that the first letter of the original image is a T. I can be persuaded that the second letter is maybe an o and in view of the mention of TOLMER and a possible French connection I'll go for TOLIMER. That shows in a google search as well in Oz

I'll standby for peanut duty

[redcrystal]

 Hi JAP,
Yes it is a P, and it is the weirdest I have ever seen  ,
I think apart from the fact that his writing changes the worst part is he used that split nib!   

Incidentally, I'm still puzzling over the word before Reid's Creek - why would anyone stay a servant when there was a ton of gold to be won!  And is his actual occupation (you mention Licensed Victualler) elsewhere on the cert?

For John's occupation on the marriage certificate, would it surprise you to find out I can't read it lol  . I am the best genealogist on the block lol. I shall attach it for you all to have a look at.  I think it is Miner... 

To confuse a little more that col, with Mr Williams .?.?.? Reids Creek at the top is  header is named "When and Where Married".


JAP, that REID'S CREEK GOLDFIELD doc is very interesting thank you for that! I am thinking that maybe George Brassington may have been there mining too. As in NSW is supposed to be in shipping. May also explain what 16 year old Caroline was doing in Vic. Maybe  they went down for the Rush as a family ?
Liz

[redcrystal]

Well I now have found that the Brassington's were there in Vic, I have found Caroline's brothers death info.. I knew he died in 1854 but not where (off LDS info) So yay! I least I discoved that. Now I know she wasn't a run away
Family Name: BRASINGTON
Given Name(s):William
Sex:Unknown
Event:DEATH
Father's Name:George
Mother's Name:UNKNOWN - Susannah
Spouse's Family Name:   
Spouse's Given Name(s):   
Age:2
Birth Place:TAMWORTH
Death Place:   
Registration Year:1854
Registration Number:2063

[JAP]

Hi Liz,

Well ain't that something.  I guess that you know that Tamworth is in NE NSW - I lived in nearby (but higher) Armidale for some years.  As for Beechworth, Vic - my late father grew up in nearby Rutherglen; his father (active in founding Shearers' Unions - some say he founded the first SU) worked in gold mines there round 1900.

And yes, George B and Susannah were in Beechworth - they had a daughter there.

There are a couple more BRAS*INGTONs in Vic in the early times apart from Caroline Esther's marriage and little William's death.
BRASINGTON Charlotte, father Geo, mother Susanah DAVIS, b BEECHWORT 1855 #8979
BRASINGTON Charles Daniel (b London) m RICHARDSON Margaret Alma (b Sussex) 1882, #4970

There are also some BRAS*INGTON mothers (Mary, Sarah, Letitia, Harriet) to children named PERRY, RIDLEY, SCURRY and SPICER - are these relevant?

JAP

[JAP]

And again ...

I guess you've looked at the NSW BDM online at:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Your people certainly moved around - marrying in SA, having children in NSW and Vic ...

I see that in NSW there's a:
Susanna BRASSINGTON born to George H and Susanna in 1847
Harriet A BRASSINGTON born to George H and Susannah in Eden in 1864
George H BRASINGTON born to George H and Susannah S in 1843
Alexander BRASINGTON born to George H and Susanna in 1849
Phillip BRASINGTON born to George H and Susanna in 1845
William BRASINGTON born to George H and Susanna in 1851
Emily R BRASINGTON born to George H and Susannah S in Sydney in 1857
Matilda BRASINGTON born to George H and Susannah in Eden in 1861.

Probably more information to be found on the NSW BDM site ...

JAP

[redcrystal]

And yes, George B and Susannah were in Beechworth - they had a daughter there.

There are a couple more BRAS*INGTONs in Vic in the early times apart from Caroline Esther's marriage and little William's death.
BRASINGTON Charlotte, father Geo, mother Susanah DAVIS, b BEECHWORT 1855 #8979
BRASINGTON Charles Daniel (b London) m RICHARDSON Margaret Alma (b Sussex) 1882, #4970

There are also some BRAS*INGTON mothers (Mary, Sarah, Letitia, Harriet) to children named PERRY, RIDLEY, SCURRY and SPICER - are these relevant?

JAP can I kiss you?? I will anyway *kiss* You are wonderful, I don't know how you found Charlotte's. (I have this whole other thing going on about her!! And this record complicates it, but also helps the situation, by proving she existed ) I thought I looked for all varients! Obviously not. I have only known her as Elizabeth Charlotte.
Thank you for finding that and not assuming I had found it already.
I am not sure about the Marriages, George and Susan/na(h) came from ENG and as yet the info I have about there births comes from a submited family file at LDS.. (which I am having issues about as well lol)
Thanks again mate that is wonderful!

And again ...

I guess you've looked at the NSW BDM online at:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Your people certainly moved around - marrying in SA, having children in NSW and Vic ...

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Probably more information to be found on the NSW BDM site ...

JAP

Yes I love NSW BDM!! I search it often. I think I have them all off of there.
You are most certainly right about them moving around, and although it makes it harder to trace, it is cool because you can make more of a story. Like, my guess about GB and family moving for the gold, we that must have been what they were doing. BTW they had two kids in SA too lol.

Liz

[redcrystal]

Hi All,
What about Salmon? Or Solmon/Solomon. This name is driving me crazy! Bah to the priest who chose such a silly nib to use and for having hard to decipher writting.
Liz

[KathyM]

Looking at the letter over and over again....I am still convinced that the first vowel in Mary's surname is O.....there are two different  O's....depending upon what letter is going to be written next......the one in George finished at the top, because 'r' starts at the top....the one in Mary's surname finished at the bottom as it is followed by 'l'.

Going back again to the word before, Reid's Creek.......is this def. the occupation ?  Do you think it may be part of the address and says......."tent, Reid's Creek"   ??

[redcrystal]

I was looking at that "tent' area, and that is also what I came up with Cathy, that or T.est.
I am also fairly sure the second letter is a O, too. As with the a's they all have the little down stem.
The third letter is a l, but with the last couple I can't be positive. I think it is mer or ma.
I was suprised to see that there are Jolmer's out there
Liz