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Offline Treetotal

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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 20 November 16 11:12 GMT (UK) »
I have to say that I doubted that the third letter was an "r" as it doesn't match the other "r"s in the writing and thought it could be an "n"...but agree the second word begins with "S" and it does look at first glance like "Penguin"
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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 20 November 16 11:15 GMT (UK) »
I see “Perquin Sibellor”. Apparently “Zabuloe” is pronounced something like “ZEE-b-le”, so getting close to “Sibellor”. “Perquin” bothers  me, but if it’s copied from another handwritten document it’s feasible. “Perran” derives from Saint Piran, variously spelt Pyran/Pirayn/Peran and so on. I can readily see “Peryan” transcribed as “Perquin”. 

It would be handy to know where and when the record was made.

But, in short, I agree 100% with Bookbox (and Giggsycat earlier) - a parish in and around Truro in Cornwall, looking something like “Perranzabuloe” has to be meant for ‘Perranzabuloe”,

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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 20 November 16 11:17 GMT (UK) »
I agree the hand is neat and tidy but the L [or S] seems to be slightly unformed

I think you've put your finger on it. The L appears to be ‘slightly unformed’ because it is actually S;)

Regardless of that, the parish name has clearly been mis-spelt in this military discharge paper. So the issue is to determine which parish was intended. So far, Perranzabuloe seems to be the best candidate, and especially if the second word does begin with S.

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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 20 November 16 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Before I had seen any of the other replies is had read it as Perguin/Peryuin Sibellor. *

Given the actual pronunciation of the second part of Perranzabuloe (reply #19) I think it's a poor attempt at a phonetic rendering of that name.

* Copperplate 'S' and 'L' are often confused. This is why a lot of people who were actually sawyers are mistranscribed as lawyers  :D
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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 20 November 16 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Don't discount a Cornish accent making things harder to understand, too! ;D
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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 20 November 16 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Update.  These images are from Army discharge documents:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8828942

Here is another image from another document for the same person:

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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 20 November 16 20:55 GMT (UK) »
The capital letters L and S are often confused, it is a common mistake. I have lost count of the number of people  who have  been surprised to find a Lawyer amongst their Ag. Labs,  when they were actually Sawyers.



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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 November 16 21:48 GMT (UK) »
That is a g, I discounted it in the first document. It does also look more like a S than a L in this one. Still makes no sense though.

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Re: What is the name of this Cornwall parish?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 20 November 16 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Seems to me you have enough info at this point to check baptism or birth registration records to see if he is in that parish or not.  That's really the only way to know for sure whether this is a simply a misspelling or something else.