looking for Joseph Thomas Carter

[muddypuddy1]

Hi all  i need  all you sleuths   out  there   please  can  anyone  help  find   JOSEPH THOMAS CARTER born  1885/1886 in Eastbourne   east  sussex  England  he  lived  in Hailsham   nr  Eastbourne .His  parents  were  Richard Carter  and Harriet (nee  Goldsmith  )He  Joined  the  army   and  discharged on 19/5 /1916 as  medically unfit  .he  married  a  "scottish Granny "  they had  3 possible  children   Florence  ,Mary ,& Robert .He  travelled  around   with  family  doing  demolition work .in 1993 Jess Carter  his  brother   had  a  letter  who informed  a  Philip Carter  in Canada as  he  was  doing  a  book ( a  great  nephew) Nothing  has  been  heard  of  since  .Please  can  anyone  help  on this  quest   to  find  any info and  relatives  on Joseph   so  that  my cousin  and  myself  can  finish off  that particular  line  .All of  his  brothers  have  been  found   except  him  .We dont  even  know  the  real name  of  "scottish  granny  so  we  cant  go  forward on her.This  is  all the  info  i have  !
a  Huge  thankyou in advance   
Zillah  (muddypuddy1 )   

[KGarrad]

Not sure why you posted this in "The Lighter Side"?

Joseph Carter is a very common name - even Joseph T Carter isn't exactly rare?!
Have you found him on the 1939 National Register?

I looked at FreeBMD for a birth for Florence (as the least common name of the 3 children). But there are so many Florence Carter's out there!
Between 12 and 20 every year!

I'm not sure your family tale really holds water?
How did a "Scottish Granny" still manage to produce 3 children?

[ColC]

Joseph Thomas Carter birth registered Oct-Nov-Dec 1885 Eastbourne Sussex

1891 born Eastbourne 1886, with parents and 4 other children.
Not with family 1901 or 1911 and no clear trace elsewhere?

16 trees on Ancestry some with the same information as your post.

Do you know when and where Florence, Mary ,& Robert were born?

Colin

[rosie99]

His exact date of birth could help find his death record and him in 1939 

[muddypuddy1]

thank you for  your  input    firstly  i have  not  used  the  lighter side  for  along  time   and  i went  straight  to  it   so  if  someone  wants  to  move  it  then do  so  to  the  right  section   
secondly  hes  not  on the  1939  registers   i have  even  asked  ancestry  personally   and  they cant  find  him   .Hes  just  a  mystery   and  i personally dont   think we  will find  him   YET 
thirdly   i said  the  children  are  a  possibility    but  not  sure  if  we  are  going  up  on a  banana boat  . we  have  been looking   from 1916 onwards   and  nothing  .Scottish granny   could  be  a  red  herring  i know   but  some of the  family seems  to  have  heard  of  and  known as  scottish granny   but  didnt know  her  real name  .
one  of  Joseph brothers  was  Nelson Victor  Carter   a  VC  holder   and  all the  other  brothers  was  in the  army   

thank you 
zillah   

[muddypuddy1]

Joseph was  born oct  1885
"son "Robert E born  1923   the  2  sisters  Mary and Florence   i havent got births  for    because  as  i said  before   maybe  those  3  MIGHT  NOT  be family   i got  no marriage  for  Joseph   and  maybe  they  didnt marry   and  live  in sin   

[KGarrad]

Ancestry don't hold the 1939 National Register - so rather pointless asking them!

Wikipedia page re Nelson Carter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Victor_Carter
If it helps anyone, he was born on 6 April 1887 to Richard Carter, of Hailsham; husband of Kathleen Carter, of 33 Greys Road, Old Town, Eastbourne.

FreeBMD has a birth for Robert E Carter, March qtr 1923, St Faith's Registration District (Norfolk)
or
Another Robert E Carter, June qtr 1923, Canterbury Registration District

[Spidermonkey]

MMN for Robert E Carter's bn between 1922 and 1924:

1922 Osman (Wallingford)
1923 Rolfe (St Faiths)
1923 Pilcher (Canterbury)
1924 Newman (Shipston)

[Spidermonkey]

1923 REC (St Faiths) has parents Robert G W and Florence Carter, so prob not him.
1924 REC (Shipston) has parents Frank W and Elsie M Carter.