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Offline coombs

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Family surnames as first names.
« on: Friday 11 November 16 19:42 GMT (UK) »
A thread on names different to unusual names, as first and middle names that sound more like surnames are not necessarily odd, more that it was the name of a local figure or more importantly to us family historians, a family name.

For instance my ancestor is Nathan Jackson Quilter born c1752 in Essex. Died 1817 in Rettendon, Essex aged 75. I have scoured many, many SEAX Essex registers for a baptism to no avail yet but his middle name is food for thought. I did find a Roger Quilter wed a Mary Jackson in north Essex in 1604. But this could be name coincidence, then again sometimes a family name given as a first or middle name can be from a few generations back.

These are particularly common in East Anglia. I have a Mary Newman Smith in my tree who wed in Foulness, Essex in 1780. Such occurrences can be helpful.

I have a Amis Hempson in my tree and the Amis link is several generations back.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 November 16 19:52 GMT (UK) »
This happened a few times in my family, in most cases the child's first name was the mothers maiden name (Eustace, Barbour, Carpenter)....

Keane (Westmeath)
Ledwith (Longford/Westmeath)
Gray (Sligo)
Eustace (Louth)
Frost (Suffolk)
Farrar (Yorkshire)
La Favor/Lefebvre (Quebec)
Mineard/Maynard/Mainard/ Maynord (Wiltshire/Monmouthshire)

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 November 16 20:43 GMT (UK) »
It's happened in mine too.
My grandfather's middle name was Simla, named after his (I think) godfather whose family had been missionaries in India (Simla).
I also have the usual instances of mother's maiden name, e.g.  Isaac Handscomb Branson plus the odd illegitimate child whose middle name was a big clue as to the identity of the father   ;D
A branch of my family who emigrated to Western Australia from Colmworth, Bedfordshire. later gave two of their children the middle name of Bedford - obviously not wanting to forget their origins :)
What is really annoying is when you find a middle name which is obviously a surname but you have no idea where it came from. 
Bev

Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 November 16 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Very common in Scottish guys.

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 November 16 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Verra true Skoosh. Of my mother and her 7 siblings, only one didn't have a former family surname as a middle name. Her mother, my gran had two. ;)
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 November 16 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Shockin score the night Seoras, I still like wee Strachan though!

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 November 16 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Three good headers Skoosh but the score didn't reflect the game really. I think it's best to stick with Strachan too.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 November 16 23:07 GMT (UK) »
And common practice amongst Scots-Irish ...

Johnston Ambrose (surname)Crozier is a recent example in my family
Or early days ...
Cadwalander Blaney who married mary Sproule and yup very kindly named a son Sproule Blaney

I could go on haha

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Re: Family surnames as first names.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 November 16 00:25 GMT (UK) »
I have a Horatio Ross McGregor, born 1848, who was born after his family moved to Ross-shire. I thought he was named after Horatio Nelson and the county they’d moved to, until I realised that it was probably more likely that he was named for Horatio Nelson’s god-son, Horatio Ross, a famous sportsman of that era.
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