I'm now a very happy bunny!

[jillruss]

I have spent years trying to fill in the gaps with my great grandparents' 15 children - only 4 survived.

It doesn't help that they were travelling between different West Yorkshire and East Yorkshire fairgrounds so no constant location. Plus the mother alternates giving her maiden name as France (her actual father's surname) and Walker (her stepfather's surname), so it hasn't been an easy task, especially as she plumped for Walker more than she did France. Why couldn't she have gone for the less common name? 

Thanks to the new GRO indices, I have found another son, so now only have two more children to locate. I'm trying again, making a list and being methodical, looking for the time gaps.

Can't complain though, as I have found two long lost deaths and a couple of children (another branch) who were born and died between censuses.

Someone earlier in this thread said they were having great fun searching - so am I! However, if I said that to the sister in law who's just been on the phone, she'd think I was ready for the funny farm. "Other people" just don't get it, do they??!! 

Jill

[Girl Guide]

I decided to get the death certificate for the missing child that I found.  I requested a pdf file as it was cheaper.

Received it via email today and I was somewhat surprised to find that it is not a complete cert.  The top bit is the usual you get at the top of a cert, reg. district etc.

Then under that is the details of the death, name etc but you can see that it has been sort of cut and pasted as the lines don't match up.  And that's it, nothing else underneath.

Has anyone else found this with their pdf cert?

It would be interesting to see what other rootschatters receive when requesting a pdf  birth or marriage cert.

I did try downloading it to here but the file was too big and I don't know what to do to make it fit!

[rosie99]

Guy has posted an image on his website of birth and death copies supplied as PDF (scroll to the last copy)

http://anguline.co.uk/cert/burial.html

http://anguline.co.uk/cert/birth.html

[Guy Etchells]

I decided to get the death certificate for the missing child that I found.  I requested a pdf file as it was cheaper.

Received it via email today and I was somewhat surprised to find that it is not a complete cert.  The top bit is the usual you get at the top of a cert, reg. district etc.

Then under that is the details of the death, name etc but you can see that it has been sort of cut and pasted as the lines don't match up.  And that's it, nothing else underneath.

Has anyone else found this with their pdf cert?

It would be interesting to see what other rootschatters receive when requesting a pdf  birth or marriage cert.

I did try downloading it to here but the file was too big and I don't know what to do to make it fit!

Yes I mentioned this in another thread on Rootschat.
I have images of both an uncertified birth entry and an uncertified death entry on line at
http://anguline.co.uk/cert/uncertified.html

Note the new url to aviod having to scroll through other images first.

Click on either image to make it larger and easier to see that they are infact compiled images made up of two parts.

Cheers
Guy

[ReadyDale]

But isn't this just, in effect, what we had before with the paper versions?
The only difference being that the new upper portion was pre-printed on to the paper, then the lower section overprinted.
I'm going from memory (and Google) here, as I am away from my certs.

[Guy Etchells]

But isn't this just, in effect, what we had before with the paper versions?
The only difference being that the new upper portion was pre-printed on to the paper, then the lower section overprinted.
I'm going from memory (and Google) here, as I am away from my certs.

No the uncertified PDF image is the same as the centre part of a paper ceritificate (i.e. the part that used to be surrounded by a red line forming a box).

The top section (above the box) on the paper image is not reproduced and the bottom section is not reproduced.
The reason these two sections are not copied to the uncertified PDF images is that they both confirm it being a certified copy which of course the PDF is not.

Cheers
Guy

[ReadyDale]

Sorry, I didn't make myself clearer.
What I meant was, the old paper versions were not one contiguous item either, just presented differently.

The old paper centre section directly equates to the lower half of the new e-cert

The old paper upper section was just a pre-printed table, showing just headers for Reg Dist, Sub Dist, County, followed by the header bar for the centre section. On to which the detail for Reg Dist, Sub Dist and County were overprinted (in modern type). With the new e-cert, from what I have seen so far, you basically get a copy of this info from the top of the original register.

The only part that is actually different is that you don't get is the lower section, which as Guy says, is what makes it not a "certified certificate" (if you know what I mean!!) and is what means we can get them £3.25 cheaper.

[Girl Guide]

Do I take it that if you order a pdf marriage cert you will still see the signatures of the bride and groom plus witnesses?

Technically that would be the bottom half of the cert and I'm getting the impression that the pdf doesn't come with the bottom half.

[ReadyDale]

Unless I've missed something, only Births and Deaths available as PDFs currently.

Guys links from a couple of posts ago show what you get