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greli
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Wednesday 09 November 16 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Can anyone help with missing birth records please.
My gggrandfather was born in Brixton surrey 1846 but there doesn't seem to be a record of his birth. His name was Samuel Rowley. His father was William Rowley 1821 and his mother was Sarah.
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LizzieW
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Wednesday 09 November 16 17:46 GMT (UK) »
His birth may not be registered many weren't at that time, or perhaps it's registered in his mother's maiden name. When did his parents marry?
greli
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Wednesday 09 November 16 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply .There is a marriage record for a William Rowley and Sarah Willmott who were widow and widower when they married 1847. I am not certain that it is the correct one.
taffie01
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Wednesday 09 November 16 18:36 GMT (UK) »
do you have the marriage cert? the place of marriage could just be a possible place of baptism.
If you can find a baptism for Samuel it may have his date of birth recorded, some vicars did add extra info so it is worth a try.
good luck
taffie
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Wednesday 09 November 16 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi is this the family in 1851?
William Rowley 1821 occ Carpenter & Journeyman b Kent or Hants
Sarah 1817 Leicestershire
William 1844
Samuel 1846
Mary 1849
All children born Tulse Hill
Census ref HO107/1575/246/8
The marriage you show has William occ Carman
In 1841 William could be the 20 year old Carpenter Apprentice in Lambeth
Census ref HO107/1054/ 6/37 / 9
Keyboard86
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greli
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Wednesday 09 November 16 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Yes it is the family. I have gained my info from censuses.
thanks
MaureeninNY
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Wednesday 09 November 16 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Just going by siblings births from the GRO index her mn was TYRRELL. Marriage looks to be 1842 Lambeth.
I don't see a registration for Samuel,though.
Maureen
keyboard86
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Wednesday 09 November 16 18:59 GMT (UK) »
A word of advice, never trust your research on census alone
The change of occupation from a Carman in Stepney to a Carpenter in Lambeth suggests that is the incorrect marriage you supplied?
Keyboard86
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Christine53
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Wednesday 09 November 16 20:49 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 Rowley ( mother Tyrrell ) births in Lambeth in 1847 :
Abraham A-J 1847 Lambeth v 4 p218
Isaac ( identical reference )
Abraham Rowley died A-J 1847 Lambeth v4 p170 but I can't see any further mention of Isaac.
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