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Re: GRO indexes on gro.gov.uk !
« Reply #144 on: Sunday 06 November 16 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Hopefully cuffie81 is correct and wildcard searches will be enabled in the future. Most of the births I'm looking for have surnames which change spelling a lot, and I prefer using wildcards than the usual soundex options.

I guess they're testing the water and not allowing searches which would slow the site down too much - same reason they only allow +/- 2 years maybe?

Apart from that, I'm really pleased with how the search page works.
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« Reply #145 on: Sunday 06 November 16 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Project DoVE was one part of a three part plan.

The first part project  DoVE (Digitisation of Vital Events), was to digitise the GRO's records of birth, marriage and death. This ran for three years and ended in 2008 when the contractor pulled out.
By that time only the birth records up to 1934 and death records up to 1957 had been scanned.

See http://www.rootschat.com/links/01isx/

The second part EAGLE (Electronic Access to GRO Legacy Events) is what the GRO use to supply certificates to the general public.

The third part was MAGPIE (MultiAccess to GRO Public Index of Events), was intended to make the indexes available to the public via a website the new index.

In addition a Digitisation and Indexing project to complete the digitisation of BMD records plus index and update the ordering process was later started
This was suspended in 2010.
Estimates (as of August 2012) for the completion of the digitisation project were £25-30 million.

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Re: GRO indexes on gro.gov.uk !
« Reply #146 on: Sunday 06 November 16 10:00 GMT (UK) »
What I am finding very interesting is that when I look for relatives from the mid 1800s by just putting in year and no further information is just how regional some surnames are, and they do seem to have a fairly high concentration in the areas these ancestors were from.

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« Reply #147 on: Sunday 06 November 16 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Having spent time this morning reading Guy's posts about the Birds projects on here dating back to 2007 he must be glad to finally see something materialise. We have been working through trees and have come across transcription spelling errors and infant deaths in months recorded as years and have submitted feedback. Unless they re-read evey death image looking for mo rather than yr and re-enter our feedback will be the only way of isolating these.
I suspect the reality is that such corrections are unlikely to be utilised in the near future. For the Irish census similar feedback occurred for years and it was only recently that the following was added to their help page
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Since the Online Census went live, the National Archives has received thousands of emails detailing error corrections through our error feedback facility. Until recently, we had no staff to undertake the task of verifying these suggested corrections, and entering them in the database. Over the last year, however, we have been able to make a start on this task, and have validated and corrected 12,600 submissions. We have now re-indexed the site to incorporate these corrections.
We hope, subject to resource constraints, to continue this important work, and we thank our users for their patience in waiting a considerable length of time to see their very useful corrections implemented.

Despite these hinderences we have managed to find said registrations (admittedly only with external knowledge & without that one would go looking fruitlessly for a 13 year old's baptism rather than a 13 month). However, as the system is under trial perhaps feedback on improvements to the Search functions are more likely to see results this year or next. It underwent Beta testing as outlined here http://lostcousins.com/newsletters2/specialnov16news.htm#GROindexlaunch which includes the line "Also, if an infant died at the age of (say) 9 days, 9 weeks, or 9 months the age at death may have been recorded as 9 years".

I find Cuffie's improvements to the Search page result in quicker searching - but he is better to describe & feed that back than me a mere user.
I find just using Surname + Exact & inputing a known registration district quick but if I change to Phonetic or Soundex more often than not I time out with error and once it has started have to wait minutes till it has finished, or give up & close the window & log in again, for me that definitely needs fixed/improved in the programming and will feed that back to them.
So it has got database errors but living with them for now what needs improved and fedback not just on here but to the GRO?
Perhaps FFHS SOG etc might be able to summarise such comments in a document which would be more friendly to them than hundreds of individual comments that they need to read, some might say doing some of their work for them.


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« Reply #148 on: Sunday 06 November 16 11:45 GMT (UK) »
For example ability to search by County would be useful as is possible on FreeBMD rather than just District, although likely more complicated than at first seems as eg Stratford upon Avon District includes parishes in Warwickshire, Worcestershire & Gloucestershire

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« Reply #149 on: Sunday 06 November 16 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Crikey - I can't believe that so many are so negative about something that, to me personally, is wonderful. :-\  You just have to do a bit of homework first   :o :)

I've already short-listed my birth registrations, and used this new facility to confirm or deny the mother.  Deaths I haven't used to any great extent, but the one or two where I was unsure of ages, this search has proved invaluable, if only by elimination.


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« Reply #150 on: Sunday 06 November 16 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Crikey - I can't believe that so many are so negative about something that, to me personally, is wonderful. :-\  You just have to do a bit of homework first   :o :)

I've already short-listed my birth registrations, and used this new facility to confirm or deny the mother.  Deaths I haven't used to any great extent, but the one or two where I was unsure of ages, this search has proved invaluable, if only by elimination.

My sentiments exactly BumbleB.

I am using Free BMD to narrow it down first.

Give them time,they only launched it on Friday  ::)

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« Reply #151 on: Sunday 06 November 16 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Crikey - I can't believe that so many are so negative about something that, to me personally, is wonderful. :-\  You just have to do a bit of homework first   :o :)

I've already short-listed my birth registrations, and used this new facility to confirm or deny the mother.  Deaths I haven't used to any great extent, but the one or two where I was unsure of ages, this search has proved invaluable, if only by elimination.

I agree BumbleB - I've only been using it a couple of days and already have found information I could never have got, other than spending money on possible certificates. A great FREE resource.
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« Reply #152 on: Sunday 06 November 16 12:17 GMT (UK) »
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Similarly I have deleted a half dozen Birth registration citations so far and confirmed the correct ones using MMS eg Annie on all baptism census marriage & death but birth was registered as Mary. I had added a ? on the previously assigned GRO Annie birth as was in the 'wrong' District.
So I am very gratefull but if things can be tweaked given likely budget constraints to make research & life easier I like to see that, it may be possible at this stage. Intention in my post was to be realistic not negative, in fact I don't think anyone has been. I welcome it.

John