Author Topic: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?  (Read 38436 times)

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,826
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #117 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you dobfarm and Claire

When John Clark, Tanner of Selby, died, (Will 1764), Clark left his property divided between his five daughters as five equal shares. Later George Hood purchases 4/5 ths of the Gowthorpe premises (advertised in 1830).

The Deed is Registered in 1831 for 4/5ths of the Gowthorpe premises acquired by George Hood, which indicated that Martha Clark was one of 5 Coheiresses at Law to John Clark and that Martha had married William Dickinson late of Selby Tailor, which had passed to his son John Dickinson of Selby, Plumber and Glaizer.

However, the registration makes no reference to George Hood being heir at Law, to any one of the inheritors of the Five Clark Sisters shares.


Thought, crossed my mind - possibly George illegitimate, takes surname Hood from his father but buried with his birth name.

However, once a Death is registered, a Burial Certificate was issued in the name of the deceased to permit the burial to occur (the Quakers have kept these filed). I doubt, if the Church would put a different name in their Burial Register to the name given them on the Burial Certificate and Death Certificate?

Missing burials online, more likely.

Regards Mark

Offline dobfarm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,951
  • Scarcliffe village Derbyshire
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #118 on: Wednesday 01 February 17 00:55 GMT (UK) »
Possible :)

What if : George 'Bloggs' bn c1786 to illegitimate mother, takes on Hood surname from stepfather throughout his life but buried with his birth surname -  and that of the rest of the family we can't find burials for. They could be right under our noses :)

Incidentally dobfarm the Sarah Hood burial you found in Chester le Street - was that ruled out? It was a good find that  :)

I have vague recollection of that Sarah Hood burial but how far we got with it or what thread it is on I can't remember.

Another point the missing Hood Selby adult children burials and Sarah Hood burial would have been Hood at burial

Sarah Hood missing burial 3 decades after George is the biggest mystery of all that gap to me indicates they are all buried together or at least George and his wife Sarah Hood are.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

Offline ..claire..

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,951
  • Genealogy...Life in the Past Lane
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #119 on: Wednesday 01 February 17 01:17 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to find that Sarah Hood link ~

Got it...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6052443#msg6052443

Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline dobfarm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,951
  • Scarcliffe village Derbyshire
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #120 on: Wednesday 01 February 17 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Hood death place, person at death in her dearth certificate info 1879, a good map of house numbers, time gap from George's death, and info in the Selby newspaper 1879 that stated when a body is buried in another parish - but in Sarah's case it did not thus she should have been buried in Selby.

Quaker.

Daughter in law widow wife of William Hood son of George: lived in or near Quaker meeting house in front of Quaker burial ground at Sarah's death 1879 would be in charge of her burial.

Obvious place to bury Sarah in Selby cemetery but Sarah was not buried there. WHY

Likely buried with George in Quaker burial ground.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth


Offline ..claire..

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,951
  • Genealogy...Life in the Past Lane
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #121 on: Wednesday 01 February 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
I definitely feel a Quaker burial or NC burial. What about a Catholic burial ? Wasn't that Lord Petre a Catholic ? Incidently SEAX hold land records for Lord Petre, which includes land/property rentals in Yorkshire, so Mr G**gle tells me

https://secureweb1.essexcc.gov.uk/SeaxPAM/ViewCatalogue.aspx?ID=467377
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,826
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #122 on: Thursday 02 February 17 00:13 GMT (UK) »
I definitely feel a Quaker burial or NC burial. What about a Catholic burial ? Wasn't that Lord Petre a Catholic ? Incidently SEAX hold land records for Lord Petre, which includes land/property rentals in Yorkshire, so Mr G**gle tells me

https://secureweb1.essexcc.gov.uk/SeaxPAM/ViewCatalogue.aspx?ID=467377

Thanks for replies.

Been in touch by email with Essex R.O. a while back and they had no 1810 to 1815 Petre items for Selby.

Hull had the Manor of Selby Court Rolls (mainly dealing with Copyhold), when there was a change of owner on Copyhold at Selby, basically the new owner, or beneficiary, had to pay a fine to the Manor and make a formal request to be admitted to the Manor.

I've purchased some documents relating to an Inn (Copyhold) at Selby and the Inn was left in a Will and the beneficiary was being told, if you don't make an application to the Manor Court, the Manor of Selby will seize the premises!

Lancs looks more promising from the reply, when we can arrange a few days, as the collection is uncatalogued and spans 100s of years, so needle in a haystack comes to mind!

Noticed a few weeks ago at our Library, a Quaker burial with "Non Quaker" after the name and the Quaker Library confirmed that a few non Quakers were buried in their Burial grounds. Emailed Leeds at X-mas, had reference number, but no reply yet.

A reply (last March 2016) from Leeds re a September 1845 Quaker burial claimed they were all online.

However, this is not so according to the Quaker Library and basically only those in TNA, Kew are known to be online from RG 6 and these stop short of 1845, around 1837. Some Selby burials come under the York Monthly Meeting too.

Regards Mark

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,826
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #123 on: Thursday 02 February 17 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Links to two Mitton, Yorkshire Wills and comments ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6160221#msg6160221

Are they any help, please?

Thanks Mark

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,826
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #124 on: Tuesday 08 August 17 16:17 BST (UK) »

oil painting of Burns
Edwin Hood will written in 1941, mentions an "oil painting of Burns"
 ...

Sounds like this might be Robert Burns, or it could also be a family ancestor with the same surname.
 ...

Robert Burns and Thomas Hood
I found this regarding Thomas Hood and Robert Burns online ...

THOMAS HOOD

Accompanied Burns and Ker into England, on the Border tour, after the poet had parted from Ainslie, who returned to Edinburgh.
 
Burns described Ker and Hood in a letter to Ainslie from Newcastle, 29th May 1787:

'Old Mr Tho Hood has been persuaded to join or Partie, and Mr Kerr and he do very well, but alas! I dare not talk nonsense lest I lose all the little dignity I have among the sober sons of wisdom and discretion, and I have not had one hearty mouthful of laughter since that merry melancholy moment we parted.

 ...

Robert Burns died intestate in 1796.
 ...


Could the oil painting of Burns mentioned in the Will of Edwin Hood alias Edwin Casson Hood (Son of William Hood of Selby), be my only clue.

Or was Burns a place, or house, or farm name? For example:- Burns Beach, Lerwick, or Burns Farm, Keswick.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=98gpHIvLXKgC&pg=PT51&lpg=PT51&dq=Burns+%22Thomas+Hood%22&source=bl&ots=UHAS7OrrfN&sig=23DFh6y829c888ZvlzRIC6FfpSI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbzoGk8sfVAhUKKcAKHbUBCWUQ6AEINzAJ

Can't quite work out if this Thomas Hood was in Newcastle upon Tyne, or Burns had met Hood along the way.

The only clues I have, are sadly too vague.

Regards Mark

Offline dobfarm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,951
  • Scarcliffe village Derbyshire
    • View Profile
Re: Who is JAKE HOOD, linked to Hood of Selby - Any help please?
« Reply #125 on: Tuesday 08 August 17 17:33 BST (UK) »
Could be Burn in Brayton parish, someone added the s or a swirl on the 'N' in Burn^-
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth