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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:19 GMT (UK) »
some more children of Enoch and Charlotte

Enoch Goddard
Birth    11 May 1816
Baptism    7 Jun 1816, Parliament St Formerly Hockley Chapel-Methodist

Ann Godderd
Birth    23 Jul 1823
Baptism    31 Aug 1823  methodist,  Nottingham, Parliament Street
[Father Framework knitter of parish of St Mary, Nottingham. Mother Charlotte, daughter of Henry Mayfield. ann noted as 3rd daughter]

I wonder if the info on Enoch Joseph's death is correct. There's an Enoch Joseph who dies in March 1856 in Radford district, with a marriage in Radford - no Joseph included in the name - in 1838. On 1851 his birthplace is noted as St Mary's, Nottingham, c1817

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi have I the correct Hannah in 1841 Census as who were the parents of Maria Spurr nee Goddard b c 1802 St Mary?
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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Lots of Enochs!

More baptisms:

1785 12 20      Enoch   father John   GODDARD      mother Elizabeth            NOTTINGHAM St Mary   
(edited to add - likely burial, 1792 11 28   Enoch GODDARD      Nottingham St Mary      Son of John)

Enoch Goddard         22 Jan 1789    Wesleyan,Nottingham,Nottingham,England    parents Enoch,
Sarah  (from Ancestry)  (1784 05 24   Enoch GODDARD married Sarah   SMITH at NOTTINGHAM St Mary)

Enoch Goddard    b 11 May 1816    bapt 7 Jun 1816    Parliament St Formerly Hockley Chapel-Methodist Nottingham,England    parents Enoch, Charlotte
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Apologies - Enoch b 1817 is on later censuses and dies in 1888. The death could be his son, who is listed as Joseph on one census, but there's an Enoch Joseph birth registered 1839


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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:24 GMT (UK) »
I can't see Maria Goddard's baptism on the FH CD --- nor on ancestry
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Enoch Goddard m Selina Astill in 1838 and according to the newspapers, both parties were from Radford. I think therefore that any Goddard events in Radford can probably be discounted.

However I would like to know where the original Ancestry treemaker got their details for deaths of the two Enochs because I'm yet to be convinced!!
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:32 GMT (UK) »
More info about one of these couples - Enoch and Sarah buried a child in Basford (village) in 1794 and baptised another one there in 1795, maybe they moved out of the town centre.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 October 16 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Trying to tie some ends together:

Hannah Goddard died in Newcastle St in 1847; in her obit in the newspaper it said that she was the widow of Enoch, she was 80 years old and also that she had been a member of the Wesleyan church for more than 60 years. This suggests a yob around 1767 for her and would tie with the marriage in 1788.

In 1841 she was in Nottingham St with John Spurr and Maria nee Goddard. Can't atm find Maria's baptism (we could do with some non-con resources for this family!)

In 1851 John and Maria were still in Nottingham St and with them, John's 61 yr old sister in law, Frances Stone. I can't see any marriages of a male Stone to Frances - but Frances's age would fit with the baptism of Frances Goddard, d of Enoch and Hannah.

However as yet we have no resourced evidence of the deaths in May 1834, and we don't know which of the baptised Enochs survived to adulthood.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 October 16 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi still looking for clues via Frances Stone from 1851 census, presume same one who died March qtr 1853 Nottingham 7b 149?

1841?
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