Author Topic: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York  (Read 1253 times)

Offline rossee

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 On Family search i have found 2 marriages for the same couple.

George Howard Williams married Sadie O'Donnell on 10 Oct 1916 in Manhattan.
There is another marriage for same couple on 5 Aug 1917 in Bronx NY.
George's parents were John and Phoebe Ketcham
Sadie (Sarah) parents were Denis and Rose Doherty.

Sarah was born Donegal, Ireland 1889.
I cannot find them in any of the Census.

 I have been searching for my father in laws sister Sarah for some time and have hit a brick wall.

Any help appreciated
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Agnes

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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 October 16 17:57 BST (UK) »
Was one a civil marriage and the other in church??
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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 October 16 18:16 BST (UK) »
Here are the 2 marriage records- another possibility is that the 1st marriage wasn't valid-
(1916) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24QV-MX9
(1917) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:244X-XXG
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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 October 16 18:21 BST (UK) »
I don't know if this would give you anything revealing, but there is an index for New York City Marriage Applications, Affidavits, and Licenses as explained here - https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/1/


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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 October 16 03:11 BST (UK) »
Nothing to add that you don't already know, but

Saturday, October 14, 1916 Newspaper
"At the Marriage License Bureau"
George Williams (626 King Avenue, City Island) and Sadie O'Donnell (622 Lexington Avenue).
No additional information provided.
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 October 16 03:21 BST (UK) »
Same site as previously mentioned...
Utica Herald Newspaper

A George H Williams died on May 4, 1918.  Could he have been "your" Mr. Williams?   :-\
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 October 16 09:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you CaroleW, Shelleyesq, Aghadowey and Lisa.

There is a family tree on Ancestry that mentions George b1891 had a  sister Bertha who married a George Rhance Mullen b Belfast, Ireland. I have contacted the owner but they haven't replied.
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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 October 16 10:10 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree on Ancestry that mentions George b1891 had a  sister Bertha who married a George Rhance Mullen b Belfast, Ireland. I have contacted the owner but they haven't replied.

Marriage (1902) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:244Q-KCR
daughter Violet (1907) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W8W-QNS
daughter Mae Elizabeth (1908) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W84-X23
daughter Dorothy (1909) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W8C-YCG
Mae Elizabeth died 1910 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WD2-D4R
daughter died 1920 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WG9-NZ4
George's death (1943) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WPW-WRS
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Re: 2 Marriage dates for Sadie O'Donnell & George Howard Williams, New York
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 October 16 10:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you Aghadowey