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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 12 October 24 18:25 BST (UK) »
My 2nd great Grandmother Nympha Boag related a story to my grandfather's cousin of a Sea Captain who went down with his ship.  Unfortunately by the time he related this story to his son details were lost and we have no idea where or at what generation only that it was in the Boag/Boggs side which is important as Nympha 's maternal grandfather was a Master Mariner as well. 

Anyways we've eliminated two of the four lost at Sea Captains so far.  William Boggs who was working out of Manchester as we can find No connection to my group or a family that is genetically closely related to mine, Thomas Boggs who was either murdered or drowned in South America while looking for Pirate treasure ( YDna results eliminated him though we both share a history of a relation in some way to another Boag family  in Australia and a connection to Greenock.   The remaining two are your Robert Boggs and a John Boggs who died in 1809.  The only thing about John I can find is he was given a gift of pistols for transporting troops on a private vessel.

Nympha is descended from William Boggs and Isabella Nixon and all we really have on them is from oral history.  They married and baptised their children in Derry and that Isabella was descended from the Nixon's at Nixon Hall in Enniskillen.

All of their known children went to Ayrshire mostly to Maybole but within their records there there is at least one unknown son whose widow was Elizabeth Smith and BMD of their children suggest they were born earlier that the 1772 and 1776 in oral history.  At least one of their children was born in 1785. 

Anyways my Aunt had a DNaA match that clusters with my family and is close enough to be a descendant William and Isabella.  My shared matches with them returned a descendants  of Sally Boggs Bayliff married to James Dougherty who is connected to Tullydush in Fahan lower and most of her Nixon matches are connected to Castlewarren Tyrone whose ancestors may be the Andrew Nixon who married a Caldwell in Faughanvale.  I strongly suspect William was connected to families in around Faughanvale or in Tirkeereen at the moment.  Another shared match was to a Fulton Boggs family that researches connect to the family of John Fulton and Ann Boggs who went to Malin eventually.   My match was to a Robert Fulton and Ann Boggs and there is so far nothing that confirms Ann is related to the previous one.   Robert Fulton's mother was a Bradlee.
Anyways I am actively investigating connections to the names Fulton, Ellis, Dougherty and Swan and Anderson to Boggs family lineages and wonder if you have come across any of these in your family history or research. 

William and Isabella  known children were:

William and Isabella s known children were:

Margaret Boag ( Boggs)

1785–1859. Married to Robert Williamson

James Boag m.  To  Hannah Patterson

1789–1871


Andrew Boag m to Elizabeth Hendrie

1791–1868




William Boggs Boag Boags m. To Margaret Holigan

–1881

Aaron Boag ( my ancestor) He had two wives  Kathryn  Lang and Margaret Drysdale but my ancestor Thomas Boag was born out of wedlock to Martha McGowan between his marriages


There was at least one unknown son in the Scottish records his wife was Elizabeth Smith and by her age he would likely have been born in the 1780's.

There is also a Marriage record of a Liley Boggs and William Houston in 1820 in Maybole who may be another daughter.   

There may be other children.

Would love to know if anyone here connected to Robert knows of any known connections.

 

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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 12 October 24 20:41 BST (UK) »
As I have previously posted my interest is in Quaker Blackburns but yesterday I did find some Nixons and the area is the same. Sarah Blackburn 1799 of Newbuildings married William Nixon 1789 of Castlewarren (Bondsglen) and they did have a daughter named Isabella. Sarah's Father was Robert and her Grandfather was John 1749 registered with the Protestant Landholders 1740 as Tirkeeran. William/Robert Nixon was the son of James Nixon 1760s and Christina Dunlop. There are property maps and good source material. Ancestry member 1_barryjo24 was the source of this info.

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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 12 October 24 21:20 BST (UK) »

...but it was an insiders joke because the land of Swantallow that became 'Elagh' was high ground, very fertile, highly desirable for commanding views of the countryside. Fascinating stuff with the Battle of Elagh featuring. Others may wish to comment on its veracity

Are we talking about these two townlands in Templemore civil parish?

Shantallow townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/north-west-liberties-of-londonderry/templemore/liberties-lower/shantallow/

Elagh (More) townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/north-west-liberties-of-londonderry/templemore/liberties-lower/elagh-more/


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 12 October 24 22:22 BST (UK) »
https://www.bogstown.com

My family is McCurry Blackburns of Myroe. Focus currently on Arthur Blackburn, Protestant Landholders 1740 residing in Stroove, Moville. A couple of DNA matches to the Ancestry member mentioned earlier today led me to the Nixons and Blackburns of Newbuildings. I found two or three generations of Curry, thought to pass on whatever I found for the most recent poster.


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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 12 October 24 22:27 BST (UK) »
Jo McKee.  They are among my matches and are returned as matches between my Aunt and her Boggs cousins.

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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 12 October 24 22:30 BST (UK) »
That is good to know, all singing from the same song sheet

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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 13 October 24 15:51 BST (UK) »
Jo McKee.  The Quaker connection is actually really interesting me as my aunt's matches to a family that made me start focussing again on Robert Boggs did generate some matches to a name or variations that is also on my aunt's other side of the family which was Whalley.  My Whalley's were Quakers  from Yeadon in Yorkshire so far.

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Re: Boggs from Londonderry
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 13 October 24 20:01 BST (UK) »
The history of the Irish quakers is very interesting but most travelled to the New World to Pennsylvania where William Penn created a safe haven for their religious observance. The McCools, Blackburns, Holmes, Millars and Lightfoots went to Menallen, Chester. I would be happy just to find the parentage of Arthur Blackburn who was living in Stroove, Moville 1740, it must be connected to the Blackburns, possibly Archibald Blackburn who married Rosanna Steele of Raphoe (daughter of Nathaniel) or Archibald Blackburn who married Margaret Wilson. Hugh Blackburn was either his Brother or cousin and married either Susan Crawford or Margaret's sister, Susan Wilson. There was a business out of Glasgow 'Hugh Blackburn & Co' exporters to the British Colony of Virginia who may have had business interests in Moville.