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Nellie Taylor
« on: Sunday 23 October 16 00:42 BST (UK) »
I am researching the Taylor Family from Devon.  George Henry Taylor (Born Nov, 4, 1864 in North Tawton) immigrated to Canada with his wife Ada Irons (1866 - 1904) and three children in 1901.  He married Nellie after Ada passed away (she seems to have immigrated from England to Canada in 1909 as Nellie Taylor).  Would you be able to find me her maiden name, where she was born, and when they married.  I have been unable to find when they were buried, George passed away Jan. 13, 1927, and I have no idea where or when Nellie died.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Carol

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 October 16 01:39 BST (UK) »
Were his children with Ada Philip, Alice, and John?

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 October 16 04:49 BST (UK) »
Yes, those were the children with Ada.  According to Canadian census around 1912 he had Edith and Gilbert with Nellie.  I do have some information from when they lived in Saskatoon, SK.

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 October 16 06:18 BST (UK) »
The son of George and Nellie:

Residences:
In 1975 at 9838 Birchdale Ave, Downey, California
In 1982 at 1764 W Glenoaks Ave, Anaheim,  California

SSDI:
Gilbert George TAYLOR died on 14 March 1997
Born: 2 Nov 1912, Canada,
Last Residence: Palm Beach, Florida, USA
SSN issued California 1963

Californi-a Death Index:
MMS: Payne
Gilbert George Taylor
Born 2 Nov 1912 Canada
Died 14 Mar 1997, Orange (County)
Mother's Maiden Name:Payne

The US SS Applications & Claims Index
Gilbert G TAYLOR
(Gilbert George TAYLOR)
Born 2 Nov 1912, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Died 14 March 1997
Father: George TAYLOR
Mother: Nellie PAYNE

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 October 16 12:12 BST (UK) »
There are 2 or more previous posts by ctay1449 concerning the family of George Henry Taylor.  Do not be like me and waste time searching for info already found by others.

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 October 16 13:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks Manawakian,
I know how frustrating that is, for sure. I usually check for old posts too;  didn't this time  :(

Hi Carol,

"......Nellie Taylor).  Would you be able to find me her maiden name, where she was born, and when they married.  I have been unable to find when they were buried, George passed away Jan. 13, 1927, and I have no idea where or when Nellie died...

Did you forget your post of a year ago - which clearly indicated Nellie's maiden name was PAYNE?  RC Sandra answered with the following then, which means I've today spent a pile of time duplicating what you already have!  :-\  not to mention there's no indication in today's post, which part of Canada....or Nellie's age, indicated as abt 1882 in the 1916 Saskatchewan Census.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733616.0
"Gilbert George Taylor born  2 November 1912 Saskatoon Sa, Canada - passed away 14 March 1997 - Father George Taylor and Mother Nellie Payne.  - Last Residence 33469 Jupiter, Palm Beach, Florida"

"Gilbert George Taylor - 2 Nov 1912 Canada Death Date 14 Mar 1997 Orange
Mother's Maiden Name Payne"


When creating a topic please include all perinent information  - and if there is clear association and important background information on an already existing post, please post a link to that other one, to avoid this issue!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734131.new#new

From your other posts to this one:

It appears to me you have the following outstanding: Correct me if I'm wrong:

* When and where did Nellie die?
* Where in England was she born?
* When did she come to Canada - and from where? She could have come in from the USA - the immigration question is not 'when did you leave your homeland"  - it's "when did you come to this country"
* When and where did George and Nellie marry, if at all?
* Was she already married to someone else, and therefore didn't marry George at all, or did but under a different surname than PAYNE?
* Where is the whole family in 1921 (Canada Census) if they are in Canada at all, that is.
* Where was George buried - you have his date of death, and a photo of his headstone, but don't know where that is?

Reply#22
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733616.0
Has some indication Nellie may be in Saskatoon still in 1931 and Edith up to 1947, both apparently not married - if it IS them, of course.

Also, cannot discount that Nellie was actually born as Helen, Ellen or Eleanor - and therefore may have travelled and married that way also.

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 October 16 15:00 BST (UK) »
Was about to give up - one last search - and this might be the hitting of paydirt!

Were married 15th July 1925, Spokane, Washington:

Bride: Nellie Payne Taylor, aged 40
Residence: N2525 Ruby Street
White (English), Divorced
Number of marriage: One
Birthplace: Leicester, England
Occupation: Saleslady
Father: Fred, born Leicester, England
Mother: Julia, Leicester, England
Maiden name of Bride, if previously married: Nellie Payne.

Groom: Lionel Morris, aged 36
Residence: N2525 Ruby Street
White (English), Divorced
Number of marriage: One
Birthplace: London, England
Occupation: Traveller
Father: Maurice, born London, England
Mother: Amelia, London, England

First quick look - still following it up - but looks like Fred and Julia PAYNE of Leicestershire were in Leicestershire 1891 then in Sadberge (Darlington) Durham in 1901.

They have among their children:

a daughter Ellen E Payne, age 10 in 1891 (born 1881, probably registered as Ellen Emma PAYNE in Jun Qtr 1881). She's on the 1891 Census but not the 1901.

a son named Bertram Gilbert PAYNE, born 1883, Leicester. He died in England.

a daughter Edith PAYNE born~1893, Leicester

 ;D
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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 October 16 15:14 BST (UK) »
Oh I could cry  ;D  ;D  ;D

Spotted a travel doc for Lionel MORRIS aforesaid, travelling out of Canada on business - said wife at home was Ellen, in VANCOUVER.

British Columbia. Has images. On Family Search.

Here she is:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRY-XG6
Ellen Emma MORRIS age 79 years, widow.
Died 4 May 1960
20 years in BC.
60 years in Canada
Born 11 June 1880, England
Widow of Lionel MORRIS
Father: Fred PAYNE
Mother: Not Known
Informant: Mrs E.M. McCORMACK, daughter, of 312 -12th , Calgary, Alberta

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Re: Nellie Taylor
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 October 16 19:11 BST (UK) »
Wow! Great finds, Ambly!

Carol, did you know about Percy Seymour Taylor b. 1903 in Manitoba? He passed away there at age 8 months. You can find both entries in the index at this link. Detail view for the birth gives mother as Ada Irons. The death of Ada can also be found in this index.

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

You mentioned a Nellie Alexander as a possible 2nd wife in one of the other threads. The Banns connectd to the marriage, as mentioned then, have George Henry a resident of the parish in Gloucestershire and Nellie from the parish of Highworth Wiltshire. FreeBMD has the apparent marriage registered in Wiltshire in the Sep qtr 1908.  I believe this couple can be found in Gloucestershire in the next availble census with 2 years of completed marriage (would not have been 3 completed years until Sep). So....I don't think she is the Nellie who married your George.

And...since George was living in Saskatchewan from at least 1906 (census) I suspect he may have married in that province. The marriage index for Sask. is not available yet but here is a link.

http://genealogy.ehealthsask.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx

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