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Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« on: Saturday 22 October 16 20:09 BST (UK) »
Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown was born in Queensland, probably Ipswich, in 1908.

In 1933 her father, Edward Elmslie Brown, divorced her mother, Hester Brown, née Kerr. In the newspaper reports of the court hearing it was stated that the only child of the marriage was deceased.

However there isn't a death in the Queensland deaths indexes. Nor have I, so far, found anything via www.trove.nla.gov.au about the death of Elfrieda. I have loads of information about both parents, and details of Edward's second and third wives and the death of his infant son in 1936 of a surfeit of bananas after becoming the first baby to fly from Australia to England and back.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 October 16 22:07 BST (UK) »
A surfeit of bananas my goodness  :(

By 1933 Elfrieda could have been married and died under a married surname - any likely marriages for her?
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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 October 16 23:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian

This report gives information to suggest that Elfrieda passed away in 1914 whilst on a trip with her mother to Scotland.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/120105306?searchTerm=%22elfrieda%20brown%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateDesc

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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 October 16 02:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian

I was just about to post the Trove details but was beaten at the post...so to speak ;D

I see that the cause of death according to the Trove transcription was 'donististis'. Looking at the

original paper notice it does not look like that but I'm hard pressed to correctly identify the word.

If you purchase the D/C would you please post and put me out of my misery ;D :D

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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 October 16 03:16 BST (UK) »
Death notice has it as meningitis

"Family Notices" The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) 13 May 1914: 4. Web. 23 Oct 2016  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article19964928

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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 October 16 04:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian
 Queensland Births Deaths and Marriages are searchable on line https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/querySubmit.m?ReportName=BirthSearch

 and you will find the birth you are looking for Reg number c 5423 .You are able to purchase and download online also.
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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 October 16 07:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you Matthewj64, I'll be able to sleep tonight 8) ;D

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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 October 16 07:47 BST (UK) »
On Scotland's People, she's listed with first name spelled as "Elfrida" in the Death Indexes.

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Re: Death of Elfrieda Hester Elmslie Brown
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 October 16 08:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you all. I wonder how I could have missed those articles on Trove when I was searching for E E Brown. But I have to confess that it hadn't even occurred to me to look in Scotland  :-[

Milliepede, I did check the QLD index for a marriage and a death under a married name.

Kerri, I had found that listing in the QLD index. Unfortunately I can't afford to buy every certificate I'd like to see at $20.70 a time! I have 376 births, 239 deaths and 132 marriages in QLD, and it would cost $15,462.90 to see them all  >:(

I will look up the death certificate next time I am in the Scotland's People Centre, where for just £15 (the price of 10 Scottish certificates, or a little more than one QLD certificate, online) I can look at as many certificates as I can work through in a day.
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