Proper address where Emma was born in Langholm

[Gadget]

It's highly unlikely that there will be two detailed maps within the 10 years for a small town. Also, I don't think it would have an arrow saying where George Evans lived 

Maybe there are some local records that aren't online that might give info about developments or what houses/buildings George Evans might have been painting.  I suggested to Lucy that there might be some adverts or reports in the local papers but so far nothing has been found other than the birth notice that Lucy found and my find about Gladstone.

I passed through there a couple of weeks ago. It's a nice wee town 


Gadget

[bettyespana]

It's highly unlikely that there will be two detailed maps within the 10 years for a small town. Also, I don't think it would have an arrow saying where George Evans lived 

Maybe there are some local records that aren't online that might give info about developments or what houses/buildings George Evans might have been painting.  I suggested to Lucy that there might be some adverts or reports in the local papers but so far nothing has been found other than the birth notice that Lucy found and my find about Gladstone.

I passed through there a couple of weeks ago. It's a nice wee town 


Gadget

You are so right Gadget even if there were maps they wouldn't have arrows pointing to where George lived or where he was painting.
Unbelievably my brother was at a wedding in Gretna last week & he could have popped round to Langholm to see what he could find if anything. Looks as though finding the real address is not to be.I am ever so grateful to those of you who have been trying so hard for me.

Betty

[Rosinish]

I checked the valuation rolls of the before and after period last week and there is no real info. It looks as if there was more housing added in the period.

Gadget,

Maybe a look at maps for both years would confirm more houses (I'm no good with maps), Sorry 

It's highly unlikely that there will be two detailed maps within the 10 years for a small town. Also, I don't think it would have an arrow saying where George Evans lived 

Sorry my wording may not have been correct but I was only suggesting that if no new houses were built it may be possible to identify with the census' I mentioned who was still there & who was not, to eliminate which houses they didn't live in i.e. possibly leaving a few to consider.

Annie

[lanercost]

Comparing maps, Kirk Wynd looks exactly the same in 1857 as it does in 1898. I don't think you'll find the exact location which is normal for a smaller street at the time. Numbers for Langholm start appearing more often by 1890 so I don't think there was much need for numbers before this - the postman just knew everybody.

[Rosinish]

Thanks fab3,

Yes, no's were scarce/non existent in many places.

Where some of my ancestors lived, they had Croft No's but if they moved, the no. went with them, how confusing is that     

Annie

[lanercost]

Thanks fab3,

Yes, no's were scarce/non existent in many places.

Where some of my ancestors lived, they had Croft No's but if they moved, the no. went with them, how confusing is that     

Annie

That's very odd!

[Gadget]

Comparing maps, Kirk Wynd looks exactly the same in 1857 as it does in 1898. I don't think you'll find the exact location which is normal for a smaller street at the time. Numbers for Langholm start appearing more often by 1890 so I don't think there was much need for numbers before this - the postman just knew everybody.

Curious  as I get about 18 houses in 1855 and about 31 in 1885, allowing for some multiples, it seems a big jump.  Where they the same scale maps and did they show the boundaries between the houses?

Also intrigued by croft numbers, Annie,  as  they seemed to be fairly static in the Wester Ross community that I looked at - only changes were when neighburing crofts were acquired and then they would be given as a range - say 123- 128, etc.

Gadget

[lanercost]

Curious  as I get about 18 houses in 1855 and about 31 in 1885, allowing for some multiples, it seems a big jump.  Where they the same scale maps and did they show the boundaries between the houses?

Gadget

I just went by the 25 inch maps on NLS. 1857 on the left and 1898 on the right. Haven't been able to uncover any maps for Langholm online that show it any better than these. Perhaps second stories were added during these times?

[Gadget]

Very odd. In the overlay that I've done below,  the only diffs seem to be buildings behind on either side (uncoloured - shaded).

The 1861 census is the only free online census that have house numbers (Free cen) 1841 doesn't have numbers.  1861 shows 1-17 Kirk Wynd.

Still doesn't help Betty though 

Gadget