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please,can any one help me
« on: Sunday 24 July 05 13:46 BST (UK) »
 hi i think i have found my ggggranparents
robert full 1799 in kingsbridge devon
nancy full(wife)1799 highwick ,devon.
james t full 1844 tor morham devon.
and jane full 1827.its jane im hopeing is there daughter.
jane married frederick harris in 1845.(i have all the family from them)
im looking for confermation that jane is there daughter.
anyone have any fulls and can give me a lue .thanks everyone. ::)im also wondering if robert could of married again.
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Re: please,can any one help me
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 January 06 05:31 GMT (UK) »
I have just come across an Ann Full who married a William Lamble in 1889 at Newton Abbot. Ann was known as Nora.
Any connections ??

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Re: please,can any one help me
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 January 06 06:01 GMT (UK) »
Well from 1841 census to 1851 there is a remarriage....maybe a marriage before Elizabeth.....I think it says 30 which seems a little old for the older children

1841 census

HO107/0228r Folio 11 Page 16
Fore Street
Kingskerswell

 
FULL Robert 40 Y (Yes born in County) Sawyer
FULL Elizabeth [3]?0 Y
FULL Robert 15 Y Sawyer
FULL Joseph 11 Y
FULL John 6 Y
FULL Henery 4 Y
FULL William 2 Y

HO107/0228r Folio 5 Page 4
North Willborough
Kingskerswell

 
home of Richard Anthony -farmer

FULL Jane 15 Y Ag Lab
 
1851 census

HO107/1872 Folio 424 Page 32
33 Temperance Street
Tormoham


FULL Robert Head 50 Mar b NK Sawyer
FULL Ann Wife 49 Mar b Newton Devon
BURNETT William Stepson 15 b Torquay Blacksmith
FULL Henry Son 14 Unm b Kingskerswell Errand Boy
FULL William Son 13 b Kingskerswell Errand Boy
FULL James Son 8 b Torquay Scholar

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: please,can any one help me
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 January 06 18:23 GMT (UK) »
hi thank you very much for looking this up for me.im still confusd though.(nothing unusual about that lol)
elizabeth is only 30?.
this would mean she couldent be my janes(born 1827)mother either as she would of been to young.
i know my janes father was a sawyer.
as i have her marriage lines to frederick harris.
and its there .
could this age for elizabeth be a misprint,
sometimes i wish i had more experence.lol
thank you again though this is brilliant.
harris , penrose,jose.davison.layton.leighton.summerson.bennet.clasper.wallett.cadwallader.johnson.jobling.bell (cook?)      />craig.stokoe.marshall.chalmers.white.bainbridge.waite.trevena.trenwith.polkinghorn.dixon.jopling.powell.ivey.greenhow
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Re: please,can any one help me
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 January 06 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dwalin,

               I am not 100% sure of Elizabeth's age. I think it says 30. Now ages were rounded down in 1841 census, if the enumerator did as instructed, which means any adult over 15 years may be up to 4 years older than what is listed  A 15 year old may be between 15 and 19 and a 30 year old may be between 30 and 34. A slim chance it says 50  but I think it is 30. The other possibility is that there were 3 wives. We have a 5 year gap between Joseph and John so perhaps the older children had a defferent mother....Hope you work it out....Kris  :)
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 January 06 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Not many years to check for Elizabeth's death between the 1841 census and Robert's remarriage

1842 June quarter Newton Abbot Devon Volume 10 page 257
Nancy Bennett
Robert Full

1861 census RG9 1413 folio 17
Temperance Street Tormoham  Devon   
Robert Full 62  Kingsbridge, Devon,  Head Married Sawyer
Nancy Full 62 Highwick, Devon,  Wife  Married
James T? Full 17 Tormoham, Devon,  Son  Smith's apprentice

Possible death
September quarter 1841 Newton Abbot Devon Volume 10 Page 108
Elizabeth Full
Sorry the burial is not on the National Burial Index.

1871 census RG10 2086 folio 78
Temperance Street Tormoham  Devon 
Robert Full 72 Phackanton?? Head  Married Sawyer
Mary Full 71  Sherness, Kent, Wife  Married
+lodger

probably somebody else needs to look at Robert's birthplace.

Sadly Robert died in 1873 so no more wives!!!

The only Robert Full on the IGI is in Brixham. Right age and he does marry an Elizabeth.

ROBERT FULL 
Spouse:  BETTY DUGDALL 
Marriage:  07 JAN 1823   Brixham, Devon

ROBERT FULL 
Christening:  18 FEB 1798   Brixham, Devon
Father:  ROBERT FULL  Mother:  SUSANNA 

plus baptism of one child

ROBERT FULL 
Christening:  13 NOV 1823   Brixham, Devon
Father:  ROBERT FULL 
Mother:  BETTY 

Nothing further on IGI or for other children, but at least Robert married again after civil registration, so you can check out his father's name and occupation.

Regards

Valda


 


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Re: please,can any one help me
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 January 06 11:51 GMT (UK) »
 ;D hi i thank you for the lookups there brilliant,
oh i like a good mystery lol.
the possibility of another wife .
im going to try and get marrage cert for robert and nancy.
to get his dads name and ocupation.
there must be a record of my jane somewhere .
(i hope lol)
will keep looking am really grateful for your help though.
dwalin
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 January 06 12:08 GMT (UK) »
I've had a squint at that 1841 entry - I would say it is definitely 30 comparing the way he does 3's and 5's elsewhere on the page.

Also found this
1841
Kingskerwell
Jane Full 15 Ag Lab born in county
in household of Sarah Rolestone 70 Paid this is within the house of Richard Antony 40 Farmer
HO107/228/4 Pg4

Jan ;)
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 January 06 12:24 GMT (UK) »
 ;D thank you janan.
could there be a reason roberts birth
is to be found and not janes.
if they are similar age.
im just asking opinions
as some of you have much more experience
than me.
dwalin
harris , penrose,jose.davison.layton.leighton.summerson.bennet.clasper.wallett.cadwallader.johnson.jobling.bell (cook?)      />craig.stokoe.marshall.chalmers.white.bainbridge.waite.trevena.trenwith.polkinghorn.dixon.jopling.powell.ivey.greenhow
lloyd