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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 16 October 16 23:35 BST (UK) »

I did include a question mark  ;D

Minniehaha.

Sure ... but the man buried at PN was born c. 1880.  The Alexander FERGUSON being sought was born 1888 ... with possibly a wife named Lilian (Lily) Mary.   ;D

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 16 October 16 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hello Tim,

May I suggest that you e-mail the Palmerston North Library to request scans of any death notices for John Beattie & Susan Baillie Ferguson.

http://citylibrary.pncc.govt.nz/

[See "Contact" at top of page.]

There may be information in the notices about family members of the deceased.


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #20 on: Monday 17 October 16 01:36 BST (UK) »
Hi again Tim

Have found a possible daughter for Alexander FERGUSON (and his wife Lily).
Need to do quite a lot more digging for this lady ... will post when I have confirmation.

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #21 on: Monday 17 October 16 08:27 BST (UK) »
Wow what a lot of information has appeared overnight I'll need to digest it today.

On their Scottish birth certificates or in the family bible they don't seem to have middle names, but perhaps they did have them.

I have never looked for any of them getting married in Scotland as the bible details the Scottish weddings of all their siblings and any children they had, but these 3 are simply entered n the wedding section as New Zealand.

Thank you all for your help so far and anything else you find will be a bonus

Yes I would ultimately like to contact their descendants and hear of their life there.

Tim 



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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #22 on: Monday 17 October 16 08:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Tim.

Did the boys have middle names and do you know their occupations?

Cheers Janette

Other than their names and dates of birth I have no other information about them. All the detail in the bible provides is New Zealand. Their Scottish birth certificates dont include middle names although some of their later siblings do have them.

thanks
Tim

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #23 on: Monday 17 October 16 08:51 BST (UK) »
I have now confirmed that John Beattie Ferguson did marry SUSAN BAILLIE ANDERSON in Dumfries Scotland on 6th June 1908

Susan is a schoolteacher and was born in Colmonell South Ayrshire in 1884

John is a draper

in 1901 they seem be living with susans parents in Wolverhampton

Tim

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #24 on: Monday 17 October 16 09:40 BST (UK) »
Tim ... the following is the brother of Alexander FERGUSON :

NZ Death

1943 - FERGUSON - John Beattie - 67 years
[born circa 1876]

There is a Probate file for him, available for viewing at the FamilySearch website.
Here is the link >

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481

John Beattie FERGUSON -- Palmerston North -- Year:  1943


It confirms his birthplace as Kircudbright, Scotland.

John also had a wife > Susan > and it seems his marriage was possibly in Scotland ?
As yet have not found any issue to this couple.

   ~  Lu

I keep getting an error when I try and view this record for some reason.

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #25 on: Monday 17 October 16 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Tim

Yes. there seems to be a problem at present with accessing some FamilySearch records.   ;D

Other than the John Beattie FERGUSON probate record I gave you, I also received an "error" or "try again later-type" of message for some other records I was chasing up.   Just a question of being patient I think.  ;)

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Re: Immigrants to New Zealand 1850s from Scotland
« Reply #26 on: Monday 17 October 16 16:59 BST (UK) »
I have now seen the ancestry family tree which has Alexander marrying Lillian Mary Oliver in 1919 and until I can see the actual marriage records I'd treat it with extreme caution as the same tree has my grandmother marrying the wrong person in the wrong country and dying about 30 years before she actually did (and as she lived with us I'm certain of the date) !!