George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W

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Mark
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or actor George Cole alias Arthur Daley in 'Minder'  & Sar-her indoors 
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Dare one say 'Dr (George) Who' ~~~~~ LOL!!! 

[dobfarm]

Hello Dave and All

Thank you, but please don't feel you need to go to Archives.

If you spot something (like the Selby School record online) I can purchase a scan or copy from here.

This wretched illness is still circulating (or something is) in our Midlands locality, it also has no regard for vaccination status and in the last two weeks heard of two more lost (known to people I know).

It has already and is also still hitting my family very hard who took all the so called preventions.

Ann Spruce a Beneficiary of Richard Spencer
I'm still awaiting her Will to see if I can get an inroad into the Richard Spencer of Scarborough Family and another Will of James Cockin of Barnby Dun.

Plus in the process of getting Richard Pearson document scans.

Keep safe everyone, Mark

I found this in North Yorkshire Archives catalogue

https://archivesunlocked.northyorks.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=PR.HEL
PR.HEL - HELMSLEY PARISH RECORDS

Antiquarian records for Helmsley, Ampleforth, Byland, Carlton, Kirkdale, Rievaulx, Scawton, Stonegrave, Bridlington Priory, Kirkham, Pickering, Selby Abbey and York 1725-1952

[BushInn1746]

Thanks, Mark

PR / HEL
HELMSLEY PARISH RECORDS

I have asked if they can elaborate what their handlist or paper catalogue says, regarding the following records online for Selby only, please:-

Antiquarian records ... Selby Abbey ... Covering dates 1725 - 1952

I am especially interested in records covering the 1780 to 1840s period at Selby.

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark,

(You may have seen these catalogue index before ?)

More North Yorkshire Archive catalogue

https://archivesunlocked.northyorks.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DC.SBU&pos=51

Document reference DC/SBU

    DC.SBU - SELBY URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL RECORDS


Township records:
Minutes of the vestry 1790-1873.
Accounts including overseers of the poor records, church rates, highway rates and workhouse records 1701-1819.
Land Tax Assessments 1753-1807.
Overseers of the poor papers including apprenticeship indentures, vouchers and correspondence 1829-1835.
Copies: Parts of this collection have been microfilmed [MIC 1784, 1805, 1806, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1829, 1857, 1858, 1859, 1860, 1862, 1863, 1864, 1878].

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Well anyway!

https://archivesunlocked.northyorks.gov.uk/CalmView/advanced.aspx

Enter - Selby - in the 'Any text' box, then click 'search'

Search away: there is 867 pages
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https://www.york.ac.uk/media/borthwick/documents/catalogues/pr/s-parishes/Selby%20Abbey%20updated.pdf

Papers in link 1700 – 1823

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You'll have plenty of offline researching, so I'll drop off !! a while: and do as bit for other members on here  a while.


Dave 

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

Thanks Dave

I have been through a lot of that held at the Borthwick. It use to be available from the Family Search Catalogue, large gaps of 20 to 40 years in places.

Two Window Tax Books, but a lot of people didn't pay the Window Tax, they probably didn't earn enough.

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DC.SBU - SELBY URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL RECORDS
Those very incomplete records with gaps, but was where we found the April 1819 reference paid Charles Turner towards John Hood's funeral and his Out Pension payments.

I saw both Apprenticeship documents and I asked why they didn't list the names in their index and online.

Because it would save wear on them (unfolding and folding etc.), as they were getting fragile.

One of those you mentioned, the Vestry Minutes did have George Hood's appointment as Overseer of the Poor 1838.

The only time George Hood of Selby, got involved with town life was when he was one of those elected Overseer of the Poor in 1838, but the Vestry Minutes at Northallerton, do not qualify a place of Birth for any of those elected.

Mr Joseph Dobson, Chairman Resolved That Messrs. George Hood, Joseph Twist, William Staniland and George Richardson be and are hereby appointed to serve the Office of Overseer of the Poor for the ensuing year.

NYAS didn't seem to have the Application Forms for the Election of the Overseers, if there was one.

Mark

The Helmsley Documents - Selby Abbey collection relate to the Abbey restoration.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

I also have this thing about the place of Thorne in Yorkshire.

James Cockin of Thorne (and from c.1800 lived and buried at Armthorpe), are possibly where James Cockin [Jun'r] might come from on the George Hood 1815 Marriage.

James Cockin was the Son of James Cockin of Barnby Dun (from the childrens Baptisms, mother Mary was the Daughter of John Torr of Hatfield).

George Hood of Selby
George Hood of Selby is on a spending spree from c.1830 onward.

Richard Pearson the Elder of Thorne, Yorkshire
At Thorne, there is a Shipbuilder, who was also a Shipowner and Shop owner, Richard Pearson of Thorne who died and has an 1830 Probate set at £7,000.

There is a document listed in Death Duty Index, at Kew, for Pearson and it should say who his beneficiaries were.

Waiting for Page Check and price to order it.

About 1799 there is also a Chancery Case involving Richard Pearson and Thomas Collinson and two others (appointed as a Committee) in respect of the Estate of Joseph Gilderdale, Ship Owner a Lunatic late of Thorne, now of York, Executor in the Last Will and Testament of Robert Gilderdale late of Thorne, Master Mariner, Deceased.
Order Made by the Lord Chancellor of Great Britain.

1770
Robert Gilderdale, Mariner, married Ann Howard, at Thorne.
Wits: Wm Ingle ; Thos Travis

I think there might be a Collinson link too.

John Whaley of Thorne, in Parnership with Mordecai Casson of Thorne
On 9th October 1820 the Partnership between John Whaley of Thorne and Mordecai Casson the Elder of Thorne (as surviving Executors to Robert Staniland late of Thorne Waterside, Roper, deceased), and John Fisher of Selby, was dissolved.

John Whaley of St Olaves London, married Hannah Pearson, at Thorne
Previously, in 1808 at Thorne, Yorkshire, John Whaley of St Olaves, London, married Hannah Pearson, Spinster, at Thorne, Yorkshire and R Pearson, Jun'r, was one of several witnesses.

So Casson and Whaley of Thorne and Whaley and Pearson of Thorne were linked by business and a marriage.

So I'll be looking at Richard Pearson, Sen'r Shipbuilder &c. [etc.] connections.


1795 Elizabeth Hord married Henry Casson
Henry Casson of Myton, Hull, Miller (Son of Mordecai Casson of Thorne, Currier & Sarah, deceased), married Elizabeth Hord (Daughter of Jeremiah Hord of Hull, Mariner, by Elizabeth, deceased), wits John Belton ; Edw West ; Mord: Casson Jun'r.


Elizabeth Hord born 1769.


1796 28th July, Duty Paid on Apprentices
Mordecai Casson, Thorne, Co of York, Draper & c., John COCKIN [Apprentice]

Mark

I have the 1830 Registered Death Duty document for Richard Pearson, Ship Builder and Ship Owner, of Thorne, Yorkshire.

The Inland Revenue has named Mordecai Casson, Grocer of Thorne and John Whaley of Thorne Quay, Shipowner, both of Yorkshire, as Administrators of the Will.

One daughter is named by the references to Henry & Mary Maples [nee Mary Pearson] and their children named.

The Residue of the £7,000 Real Estate value to the Testator's children and not naming one of them!

Provided Richard Pearson the Son didn't remarry (who first married 1811) Richard Pearson, Sen'r has been married 4 times.

When, Richard Pearson, Married Mary Castle, Spinster, (1st marriage), at Beverley, in 1780, Richard, was from the Parish of Campsall.

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William Hood in my family, later married Jane Casson, Daughter of Curtis Casson. Curtis Casson was the Son of Mordecai Casson of Thorne, Teaman & Sarah his Wife.

But whether Richard Pearson's family, was linked to the Pearson name in the name of a child of James Hood & Sarah nee Arundel, is a mystery.

I have been trying to find online more detailed Quaker marriage Certificates which have the "Relatives" listed (between c.1785 to c.1812) to see if a George Hord or Hood might be present, but only the Short Quaker Certificates of all those I wish to see, are online.

One of my lot in my Hood line has married someone with Curtis in his name (John Conway Curtis)

Grrrrrrr!

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

A Possible for Jane Hood, Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner?
Because Jane Hood was buried at Selby in 1803 and there seems to be no marriage to fit, I have been looking at ladies called Jane at Selby, Yorkshire, who seem to have no local burial, in their recorded name as they appear in documents.


Miss Jane Ash of Selby
Miss Jane Ash (alias Jane Ashe).

Someone unknown has suggested to f m p that Jane Ash, was buried as Jane Hewitt at Selby in 1780.

However in the Selby Burial Register, it mentions:-

1780
Jane Hewitt Wife of William Hewitt of Carleton Dau'r of Robert Ash of Selby, Butcher.

Not Buried Alive
However, I do not think Miss Jane Ash of Selby, would allow herself to be buried alive in 1780!

Miss Jane Ash and Miss Ash (one year Mrs Ash) was very much alive from 1780 to and including 1784 in two types of manuscript records, living on the Abbey Parks and Lands, known as the Staynor Domains (also called the Stainer Demesne) at Selby and occupying a piece of Firman Parks.


Firman and Pearson Are Related

Notes from the Will of Richard Pearson of Selby Gentleman

An old Will I have (purchased) of 1724 of Richard Peirson of Selby Gentleman, states that Thomas Firman was his Brother, ... Sister - Ann Waring, his Mother - Rich. Lamb Annuity of £20 of British Money, my Niece Elizabeth Waring. James Lamb of Selby. Two Friends named both of the City of Dublin Brian[?] Worthington Esq, Thomas Strettell[?] Merchant, Jeseyl Son of John Wilson of the City of Dublin, Gentleman. Burdett Worthington Son of the said Brian.
Mentions the Sugar House at Selby. Estate at Forris Towns in the Kingdom of Ireland and Estate in Great Britain.
Wits: Thomas Rawdon ; John Jewett ; Edm: Wordsworth

Will Registered at Wakefield 12th April 1733 at 11 in the Forenoon In Book EE page 596 at Numb. 872.


Miss Jane Ash, Disappears in Selby Records from 1785 - But No Burial?
It is most interesting that Miss Jane Ash should vanish in the Selby, Yorkshire, records in 1785, the approximate year of Birth of George Hood of Selby. Perhaps she moved in with someone else? But no local Burial?


York Prerogative Court Act Book, Friday 3rd March 1820

We have accessed the York Act Book which says this in 1820 about Matthew Pearson Against All &c.

Mills. Matthew Pearson Gentn ag't all &c. of Jane Ashe late of Selby in the County of York ( having &c. Spinster deceased Intestate ) - A Citation issued ag't the Parties promote to show Cause &c. why Administration of the Goods &c of the said deceased left unadministered by Mary Wightman Widow her Sister only next of kin and Administratrix of the Goods &c of the said deceased now also deceased limited so far only as relates to and concerns the now residue of a certain Term of one thousand years more particularly mentioned and described in the said Citation should not be granted to the party promovent in order that he may make a legal Assignment of the residue of the said Term and further &c.

York Act Book, Cat. Ref AB.35
1818 to 1827, Opening Numbered 55
Borthwick, York.

So Miss Jane Ash of Selby, Spinster, has died at some point and her Estate was left unadministered by her Legal Next of Kin, her Sister.

Added:
We will enquire at the Borthwick, if there is an Admin file or other information.

Also, if Jane Ash died as a Spinster, she cannot be Jane Hewitt.

Interesting that Pearson was also a surname of interest (Bernard Pearson Hood, a Grandson of George & Sarah Hood of Selby).

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Hello

Miss Jane Ash, was an Occupier at Selby up to and including 1784, when the Proprietor in 1784 was Mr M. Wharry (Land Tax).

Her address Firmans Parks Selby was given, when making Quarterly payments for the Poor of Selby, in the Selby Assessments (Selby Parish Records).

Mr Morley Wharry of Selby (also spelt Morley Wharrey), also occupied a piece.

My late Grandmother said I was related to the Morley Family.


The following is interesting ...


1749 Hood to Firman, Reg'd the 5th day of May 1749 ...

A Memorial of a Deed Indented and bearing Date the Sixth Day of April one Thousand Seven hundred Forty Nine made between John Hood of Rathkennan in ye County of Tipperary Gent and John Firman of Ballinderry in the County Aforesaid Gent Whereby the said John Hood for the Considerations in the said Deed mentioned Did Grant ...

 ... Maghereyneagh ... Magherryneagh ...

 ... and premises belonging and which were Granted in Mortgage by Thomas Firman of Selby in Yorkshire Gent to the said John Hood his heirs and assigns ...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=892993.0

Not the John Hood of Selby, Mariner, though.

I'll have to see if the Borthwick has a file of Matthew Pearson Against All and see if it tells who the All&c were.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Regarding my post at Reply #1212 about the disappearance in records of Jane Ash of Selby, after 1784.

Jane Ash of Selby died circa 1784 to 1785, around the time when she disappeared from payments into the Selby Poor Assessment (last payment 1784 and a book survives for 1785).

Just to recap, Jane Ash of Selby could not have been buried as Jane Hewitt in 1780, for two reasons:-
1) Jane Ash of Selby had remained in Selby records until 1784, having lived beyond the 1780 burial of Jane Hewitt.
2) Jane Ash of Selby was a Spinster, but Jane Hewitt was a Married Woman.


Research by the Borthwick
Searching the ... "indexes for any probate proved for a Jane Ash (or name variants) of Selby sometime between 1784 and 1820. This produced two entries, the first of which is an administration granted in May 1785. I had a look at the summary of this grant as recorded in the Probate Act Book, which reads:

'The same day admon of the goods etc of Jane Ashe late of Selby in the County of York (having etc) Sp[inste]r dece[ase]d intestate (as it is asserted) was granted to Mary Wightman her sister and only next of kin being first sworn etc before the Revd. Edward Willan Clerk Surrogate (saving etc) No inventory was exhibited and bond is entered'

The appearance of Mary Wightman as the administrator indicates that this is the correct administration record and that Jane Ashe must have died sometime between 1784 and May 1785. I've therefore had a quick look at the Selby parish burial register for the period in question (PR/SEL/9) but couldn't find any entry for a Jane Ashe. There are no entries in this date range for anyone with the surname Ashe and only two individuals named Jane. One is a Jane Lamb but she died aged 10 months and the other is a Jane Savage, buried 4 May 1785, aged 65 but she is described as being the daughter of George Savage of Selby so it doesn't look like this is the correct individual either. This suggests that the Jane Ashe in question was buried elsewhere.

Turning to the second probate entry, dated March 1820, this is another administration for the same Jane Ashe of Selby. The entry in the Act Book is quite extensive and does name a few other individuals so I've transcribed it below:

'The tenth day of the month aforesaid admon of the goods etc of Jane Ashe late of Selby in the County of York (having etc) spinster deceased intestate (as it is asserted) left unadministered by Mary Wightman widow her sister only next of kin and administratrix of the goods chattels and credits of the said deceased (now also deceased) limited so far only as relates to and concerns the now residue of a certain term of one thousand years originally raised and created by a certain Indenture bearing date on or about the twentieth day of December which was in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy one and made or mentioned to be made between George Spink of South Milforth in the parish of Sherburne in the County of York husbandman and Ann his wife of the one part and the said Jane Ashe of the other part of (amongst other hereditaments and premises) all that close or parcel of inclosed ground called The Ings Close by estimation eleven acres two roods and two perches be the same more or less being meadow ground situate and being in the Township of Monkfryston in the said County of York and then or then late in the tenure or occupation of John White or his assigns bounded on a certain town field of Monkfryston aforesaid called the North Field on the west of a certain common called Milforth Common on the east on a certain Close then or theretofore of Christopher Routh gentleman on the north and on a certain place or parcel of ground called Fryston Ings on the south which said terms by the same Indenture was erected and became vested in the said Jane Ashe her executors administrators and assigns upon the trusts nevertheless therein mentioned expressed and declared of and concerning the said terms, was granted by (decree of Court) to Matthew Pearson gentleman he having been first sworn etc before the Reverend William Bulmer Clerk Surrogate (saving etc). Sworn under £20 and bond is entered'

Although this is only a summary of the grant it does appear to name a number of other individuals who may potentially be the parties referred to in the document you sent us."


The document sent to the Borthwick was the one quoted in Reply #1212 of the year 1820.

Regards Mark