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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1179 on: Thursday 26 June 25 14:00 BST (UK) »
Regarding Lazenby, I do have this 1839 Marriage for nearby Riccall, Yorkshire, John Hood & Elizabeth Lazenby, but that John Hood seemed to move on, before the 1851 Census.
Witnesses:- Hervey Carr or Henrey Carr ; Eliz'th Taun (or Eliz'th Tann).
John Newsham, signs the other Marriage entry above.

At the Borthwick Institute at York, there are some documents for Heslington, which mention the Hood & Carr families occupying lands in Heslington. The Landowner seems to hold land in the Parish of Snaith too.

Regarding Heslington, they only seem to easily show up in Parish Registers, when they die, as though they are a Law unto themselves.

Paxton Hood preached at Heslington.

Mark


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York Herald, 9th October 1847
On Tuesday, the 5th inst., at Salem chapel, York, by the Rev. James Parsons, Mr. Edwin Paxton Hood, the well known author and temperance advocate, to Jane, daughter of Mr. William Wagstaff, of the Bleach Works, Heslington, near this city.


1885 in newspapers at his death, this was mentioned ...
Rev. E. Paxton Hood, a Son of one of Nelson's old sailors.

Hi Mark

Wasn't Rev Paxton Hood vicar in Cheshire or the Wirral area , Newcastle upon Tyne, and Bampton off The A1 trunk road near Wetherby.

Dave
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1180 on: Friday 27 June 25 20:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dave

No Cockin(g) signature.

Oh yes a, John Cook

Positively identified from his 1815 Marriage at Howden, as John Cook of Selby, Gentleman, married, Mary Singleton, Spinster, of this Parish [Howden].

By Licence with Consent of Parents

Present as witnesses are:-

H. Morritt,
Hannah Singleton,
Mary Cook,
Charles Singleton,
Thos Tyas,
Rich'd Morley Kirlew,
James Gray or James Hay, but looks like Gray on B.T. copy,
Edw Palmer.

I have seen Tyas and Palmer at a lot of Marriages.

I don't think this John Cook of Selby, has been on my radar!

Mark

Hello Dave

Robert Hood was at the Nonconformist Chapel, Newcastle upon Tyne and from Brampton, Cumberland.

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1815 Howden

John COOK of Selby = Mary SINGLETON


Leeds Intelligencer, Monday, 24th April 1815
On Wednesday week, at Howden, Mr. John Cook, banker, to Miss Mary Singleton, daughter of Mr. Wm Singleton, of Asselby.


Two COOK Grandchildren, have both married a COCKIN.


1816 Howden, Baptism of, John Singleton COOK

10th March, John Singleton, son of John & Mary COOK, Abode Asselby, Banker's Clerk


1836 at Hook, by Banns
John Singleton COOK = Martha RAWSON
Present as wits: Samewell Audas (mark) ; John Durham (signs the other 2 marriages on that page)


Their two COOK Sons both marry a COCKIN and two COCKIN seem to be of the same three COCKIN(G) siblings, the other one that Martha PEARSON married, all born Stainforth, Yorkshire.


They all seem to be the Children of John Cocking, Mariner:-

William Cockin born abt 1826
Emma Cockin born 1842
Martha Cockin born 1844


1853 at Misterton, Notts
William Cocking = Martha Pearson


1861 at Goole
William Rawson COOK, 21, (Father: John Singleton COOK) = Emma COCKIN, 18


1863 at Goole
John COOK, 21, (Father: John Singleton COOK) = Martha COCKIN, 19

In 1865, they also named one of their Sons, John Singleton COOK.


1822 Howden
There is a burial on 9th June 1822 at Howden for John COOK Abode Asselby, 36 years.


If, John COOK of Selby, Gent., (abode Asselby after Marriage in 1815), was also born at Selby, then there is a John COOKE, birth in 1784 and parents were given as: -

Father: Samuel COOKE of Selby Cordwainer Son of John Cooke of Selby aforesaid Cordwainer by Mary his Wife
Mother: Ann NEWTON Daughter of Richard NEWTON of Selby, Lab'r by Mary his Wife Daughter of William Leberry of Akister, Farmer.


Richard Newton was One of John Hood's Crew

In 1785 and 1786, the vessel Industry of John HOOD, Born Scarbro' , Abode Selby, one of the crew was Rich'd NEWTON, ages 28 & 29, Birth Selby, Abode Selby.


1824 Howden
It seems John COOK's Widow, Mary COOK, may have married George PEARS (but not checked Census yet).


Mark


Added: at reply 1160 I had touched on a bit of this, but not tied it back to John COOK at Howden (Asselby) and also John COOK of Selby.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1181 on: Saturday 28 June 25 10:27 BST (UK) »
Jane Hood wife of John Hood burial 1803 Selby aged 65 = born 1738


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A name of interest to look at for Jane Hood above and/or as a separate illegitimate mother of George Hood b 1786

Jane Cockin baptised 8th Jan 1736 father Christopher Cockin of Fishlake Yorkshire.

Need to find of this Jane married someone else



Being Cockin witness to George and Sarah marriage 1815 Selby

Cockin's stem Doncaster area


Morning Mark,

My opinion only of pointers

Based from a stand back look at the whole picture of the Cockin(g)s and Cook's latter posts on this thread, with points that stand out: or a round up of factors

1) Area

2) The sound of the only witness James Cockin (The other witness Dickinson a church official) on the 1815 marriage Selby of George Hood & Sarah Russell parish register entry and along with the surname Newby on the 1815 bond allegation of the the above marriage. Therefore these two surnames along with Gibson are the earliest know associates of George Hood a Cooper by trade.

Also it is important under these very unusual circumstances of George's an unknown background before turning up in Selby 1812 to note he had only one person he knew!! to be a witness at his wedding and thus the fact it seems J Cockin (a rare surname) was alien to Selby.

3) The word mariner keeps popping up even though both Selby - Thorne, Hatfield and Snaith are deep in land broad canal/river ports

4) As above of my other post bearing in mind we are looking at or the surname legitimate birth for George Hood b1786 and Jane Hood wife of John Hood mariner of Selby maiden name unknown buried 1803 in Selby age 65 b 1787. and we know John Hood of Selby & Scarborough was born around 1738.

John Cockin baptised 1736 in Fishlake father Christopher must be held as a contender for Jane Hood buried Selby 1803.

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 Another possibility was James Cocking witness 1815 marriage Selby was associated to Sarah Russell as a friend or of her family

Dave  :)

PS Added

 Though I still think John Hood of Selby was docked in or lived in Gateshead 1786 and Jane Hood buried Selby his 2nd wife was from Tyneside! or John Hood innkeeper of the Ship inn Gateshead was John Hood on the 1786 baptism of George Hood and he moved to take up a pub in Yorkshire

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1182 on: Sunday 29 June 25 18:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dave

No Cockin(g) signature.

Oh yes a, John Cook

Positively identified from his 1815 Marriage at Howden, as John Cook of Selby, Gentleman, married, Mary Singleton, Spinster, of this Parish [Howden].

By Licence with Consent of Parents

Present as witnesses are:-

H. Morritt,
Hannah Singleton,
Mary Cook,
Charles Singleton,
Thos Tyas,
Rich'd Morley Kirlew,
James Gray or James Hay, but looks like Gray on B.T. copy,
Edw Palmer.

I have seen Tyas and Palmer at a lot of Marriages.

I don't think this John Cook of Selby, has been on my radar!

Mark

Hello Dave

Robert Hood was at the Nonconformist Chapel, Newcastle upon Tyne and from Brampton, Cumberland.

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1815 Howden

John COOK of Selby = Mary SINGLETON


Leeds Intelligencer, Monday, 24th April 1815
On Wednesday week, at Howden, Mr. John Cook, banker, to Miss Mary Singleton, daughter of Mr. Wm Singleton, of Asselby.


Two COOK Grandchildren, have both married a COCKIN.


1816 Howden, Baptism of, John Singleton COOK

10th March, John Singleton, son of John & Mary COOK, Abode Asselby, Banker's Clerk


1836 at Hook, by Banns
John Singleton COOK = Martha RAWSON
Present as wits: Samewell Audas (mark) ; John Durham (signs the other 2 marriages on that page)


Their two COOK Sons both marry a COCKIN and two COCKIN seem to be of the same three COCKIN(G) siblings, the other one that Martha PEARSON married, all born Stainforth, Yorkshire.


They all seem to be the Children of John Cocking, Mariner:-

William Cockin born abt 1826
Emma Cockin born 1842
Martha Cockin born 1844


1853 at Misterton, Notts
William Cocking = Martha Pearson


1861 at Goole
William Rawson COOK, 21, (Father: John Singleton COOK) = Emma COCKIN, 18


1863 at Goole
John COOK, 21, (Father: John Singleton COOK) = Martha COCKIN, 19

In 1865, they also named one of their Sons, John Singleton COOK.


1822 Howden
There is a burial on 9th June 1822 at Howden for John COOK Abode Asselby, 36 years.


If, John COOK of Selby, Gent., (abode Asselby after Marriage in 1815), was also born at Selby, then there is a John COOKE, birth in 1784 and parents were given as: -

Father: Samuel COOKE of Selby Cordwainer Son of John Cooke of Selby aforesaid Cordwainer by Mary his Wife
Mother: Ann NEWTON Daughter of Richard NEWTON of Selby, Lab'r by Mary his Wife Daughter of William Leberry of Akister, Farmer.



Richard Newton was One of John Hood's Crew

In 1785 and 1786, the vessel Industry of John HOOD, Born Scarbro' , Abode Selby, one of the crew was Rich'd NEWTON, ages 28 & 29, Birth Selby, Abode Selby.


1824 Howden
It seems John COOK's Widow, Mary COOK, may have married George PEARS (but not checked Census yet).


Mark


Added: at reply 1160 I had touched on a bit of this, but not tied it back to John COOK at Howden (Asselby) and also John COOK of Selby.

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Hello Dave and All

Thank you for your comments.

First correction I must make is that there is no close Birth at Selby for John Cook of Selby, Gent and described as a Bank Clerk, who married Mary Singleton in 1815 at Howden, whose child baptised 1816 was called John Singleton COOK, because the John COOK (I found and in the quote) died at 3 months old ... 

1785 Parish Burials at Selby
1785 John COOK Son of Samuel Cook of Selby Cordwainer by Ann his Wife Dau'r of Richard Newton of Selby afores'd Labourer, 9th March Selby Church Yard Age 3 Months


James Cockin

I agree James Cockin (witness) is not in the Selby Parish Register.

There is not one Cockin or Cocking, nor Cookin, nor Cocken in the transcribed version of the Selby Register which is both searchable and fairly accurate (I use it to find people, before searching the Registers & B.T.s on Anc and F M P).

Here is the signature of James Cockin.

It is very distinct the letter k has been formed in two parts.

I sometimes think the letter m has been made by a pause in the pen nib (if so it might read Jane).

The person copying the Register into the B.T., has took the signature to be Jane Cockin, but the Borthwick feel it reads James Cockin and have seen my emailed Colour image of the Register (not from film, not fiche) and feel they cannot improve on the Colour image I already have.

The second trimmed attachment has Auto Correct applied.

Mark


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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1183 on: Monday 30 June 25 01:15 BST (UK) »
Well the first name is James (if it was Jane the distance from the 'n' to the 'e' is to far)

It could be Cockin but the up across line from the 'c' to the 'k' seem it has up dip in like a tight tiny loop making the 'c' an 'o' like the first 'o' = Cookin

This J Cookin could have been a friend from school or vocation training days or business training
or a relation! :-\

One thing is certain from the marriage image is George Hood learn to write at some school or another.

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1184 on: Monday 07 July 25 12:51 BST (UK) »
I have 2 signatures of James Cocking - Question - are they the same

note the 'c' &'k' joining  in Cockin in both signatures - (see 3rd bottom image)
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1185 on: Monday 07 July 25 18:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dave

I looked at that signature recently and thought there might be a break in the k.

But there are two crosses in the margin and a cross in the margin of the marriage above.

However, two points:-

1) There is no reference to the signatures being a mark
2) There is a note about the above sent to Court.

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Corner
Done a bit of general research into Corner marriages (ongoing), similar time period.

Because the Mother at Bubwith of Sarah Richardson who married John Hood of Selby, at Sculcoates in 1846 (a 'shotgun marriage' ), appointed a Trustee in her Will and at first glance her Trustee name, may have a Corner surname marriage link.

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William Hood, Present at the George Newby, Marriage
I was looking into the William Hood and David Swann, marriage witnesses, at the 1802 Marriage of George Newby, Wheelwright and Elizabeth Swan, both of Baln(e), at Snaith.

George Newby died a few years after their 1802 Marriage, so I thought what happened to Elizabeth Newby (nee Swan) the Widow and Relict? She, Elizabeth Newby, Widow, married Wheatley Wood, of Fishlake, Widower, in 1821 at Snaith (wits: Mark Swan ; Jno Holland) and survived into the Census!

Elizabeth Wood [previously Newby, nee Swan] according to the Census was born Wheldrake and her death age made her birth about 1781.

1780
The Dades Register says Elizabeth Swan, 2nd Dau'r of David Swan of Wheldrake Farmer son of Richard Swan of Heslington Farmer by Joan his Wife.
Mother's Descent: Mary Daughter of Mark Daniel ... etc etc

So the Heslington documents on the Borthwick catalogue, mentioning Hood, Swan and others, suggest that William Hood, witness at the 1802 George Newby = Elizabeth Swan, marriage may be a Hood of Heslington.

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I printed the Elizabeth Newby & Wheatley Wood and to my horror or delight, the signature of E. Craven (and Wm Hinsley) at the marriage above in the 1821 Snaith Register was the Marriage of William Harrison, Widower and Ann Brittain, Widow.

Although the E. Craven, marriage witness with John Hood at a Jefferson marriage, married herself later, the signature did look similar.

The couple appear to be in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 Census at Carlton, Snaith, Yorks.

1851 William Harrison 52 born Carlton Yorks, but in ...
1861 William Harrison 63 born Danby, Durham.

Fairly certain Danby is in Yorkshire, few miles West of Whitby, North Yorkshire and not County Durham.

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Cockin Cookin of Luddington
James Cookin of Luddington married Anne Easton, in 1765 (signed Ann Easton), wits: Henry Harris ; Edward Marshall.

On the East Riding Record Office, Beverley, catalogue I did a search of just "Luddington" and came across:-

DDHB Harrison-Broadley Family of Hull and Welton
DDHB/52/575

[52 means Welton]

575 - Releases to William Easton of legacies under will of James Cockling of Luddington co. Lincs.

https://calmview.eastriding.gov.uk/TreeBrowse.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&field=RefNo&key=zDDHB%2F52%2F710

Although, James Cookin of Luddington has died before the 1815 Selby Marriage of Hood = Russell, I need to know what the Will of James Cockin says. Posted the Form and they reckon it will be about a month.

Looking down is DDHB/52/574 Bond: James Harrison of Whitby shipowner to William Easton.

Comment
It seems William Easton, Gentleman, of Welton, Will, Proved 1811, has links to Harrison of Whitby and James Cockin of Luddington who had married into the Easton family.

Hood of Scarborough
One Hood baptism at Scarborough has no forename.

In 1727 Essame Hood married Jonathan Skelton (some Skelton of Scarborough Wills for 18th Cent - Borthwick Institute Archives).

In 1759 MOUDLAN SKELTON (licence - Magdalen Skelton) 26, married Robert CASS, 24, at Scarborough. I can't help but think she is a relative of an earlier HOOD of Scarborough, and named after Maudlin SPENCER who married George HOOD.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1186 on: Monday 07 July 25 21:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

 These James Cocking signatures looked to have some similarities but it was that break in the 'k' as you noticed that I remembered reading and how similar both the  'k's' were in both signatures I posted.

I still think James Cocking is a key to George Hood b1786 ish former life  before Selby 1812 being his only witness & if the Dickinson witness was a Selby church or abbey witness of many marriage at the abbey.

Sometimes its what the document says of the info within it and commonsense of the readier's interpretation of the info in document.

One could ask oneself ? why did Sarah Russell not have a witness to their marriage being from Selby or was there opposition to their marriage being George Hood was as alien to people of Selby who were weary of him then as he's alien to us now, and a mystery.

Dave
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« Reply #1187 on: Thursday 10 July 25 09:47 BST (UK) »
Hello Dave and All

For information:-

1795 James Cockin / Cookin of Luddington
An earlier James Cockin of Luddington (spelt, James Cookin of Luddington), left a Will proved 1795 so that is on order.

1835 Jonathan Hutchinson of Gedney, with Selby links
I already have the Will of Jonathan Hutchinson, Junior, and now ordered the Will, of Jonathan Hutchinson, Senior, of Gedney, Proved 1835, but I am not holding my breath, because an old book says a Brother, John Hutchinson, lived near Selby and looking at the local marriages, one has married a Tarbotton!

If one John Hutchinson marriage seen was Jonathan Hutchinson's Brother or relative, marrying a Tarbotton and this Tarbotton links to Tarbotton in Sarah Russell's descent, then Jonathan Hutchinson (Quaker) might be distant family to my family by marriage.

Jonathan Hutchinson
Life and Letters
by Herbert Hutchinson,
1946
Page 19
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.189095

Only a few letters were published it seems.

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ADDED: with a Russell of Selby Tree (scan)
 
Russell of Selby, Tarbotton link
Reply #10
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=744970.msg6012179#msg6012179

Some of the Tarbotton / Tarboton, Morley and a Myers at Selby were baptised Roman Catholic late 18th Century 
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=886082.msg7592468#msg7592468

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Regarding one of the daughters of James Hood & Sarah nee Arundel of Selby

Elizabeth Cook Hood, born "Church yard Selby" 18th January 1854, James Hood, a Currier of Gowthorpe Selby.

When James Hood married Sarah Arundel, 27th December 1851 by Licence, the two witnesses were William Calvert and John Roberts, (Roberts appears to sign quite a few).

Previously at Selby in 1838, William Calvert married Mary Cooke, Father was James Cooke, Farmer.

William Calvert is the new member of the wider Hood of Selby family and therefore witnesses the 1851 James Hood, Marriage (my family have done a lot of this, in one later Hood marriage of mine, one witness was the step-father to the Bride, etc).

Going back to the William Calvert and Mary Cooke, marriage of 1838 at Selby Abbey.

Birth of William Calvert
29th April 1841 at Langrick
William Calvert, Mother, Mary Calvert formerly COOK, Father Farmer.
Informant and Address, Wm Calvert, Father, Langrick

1841, Township of Long Drax
William Calvert, 30, Farmer, Y.
Mary Calvert, 30, Y.
James Calvert, 1, Y.
William Calvert, 1 month, Y.
Ann Cook, 70, Ind. Y.

By 1851 the means of Ann Cook must have been exhausted, I have seen this several times, where they are left an Annuity or Independant or have a pension, but reliant on Parish help in the Autumn years of life.

1851 at Snaith, Water Side
Ann Cook, Head, Widow, 75, Pauper, born Rawcliffe.
Living with her unmarried daughter Harriet Brooks, 42 and her Brooks, Grandchildren (to the Head), aged 25, 24 & 22.

It seems having a family and taking the Father's name (it would appear) was not a problem to this family in the 1820s.

1796 at Snaith
James Cook, Bachelor of this Parish, Farmer, married Ann Wraith, of the Chapelry of Rawcliffe, Spinster.
Present:- John Cooke ; Willm Padgitt

Snaith, Baptisms 1769
June
18th James S. of John Cook of Cowick.

Snaith Baptisms, May 1764, Brother of James Cook
27th Robinson Cook, S. of John Cook of Cowick.

1761 Marriage, at Snaith
John Cook of this Parish, Farmer and
Mary Robinson of this Parish Spinster
Present (wits):- Jno Hankes ; Henry Sykes.

Link to the Hotel Keeper's Wife - Bell Hotel, Leicester
My 2 x Gt Grandfather, also called George Hood, a Commercial Traveller, born Selby 1847, likely met my 2 x Gt Grandmother who worked at the Bell Hotel Leicester (in 1871).

Mrs Mary Thomson (Mary Robinson), the Hotel Keeper's Wife, goes back to the very same Robinson family that married into the Cook family above.

There are 4 Cook(e) Wills for the Parish of Snaith, I have, either side of 1800.

This did require me to get a Robinson Will (from Borthwick) and a Death Certificate to prove the line to the same Robinson family, (two male Robinson dying same year similar ages in the Parish).

Robinson Cook (Son of Robinson Cook or Rawcliffe), Spirit and Porter Merchant, in 1841, was at Friar Gate, Preston, Lancs, with his Wife, Jane (nee Miss Howard).

I also have a Notice of 1910, regarding Robinson Cooke of Rawcliffe and his son Robinson Cooke, formerly in business at Preston as Wine and Spirit Merchant and a Brother of the late Sarah Fallowfield.

This is apparently the Cook(e) surname that James Hood seems to have referred to when naming children, also the Robinson family and the place of Snaith, my late Grandmother spoke about.

1762 Marriage, Carlton in Snaith
Edward Robinson and Mary Hodgson, both of the Township of Carlton, in the Parish of Snaith (witnessed by John Cook ; Joseph Taylor), are on the lineage of the Leicester Hotel Proprietor's Wife.

General Comment
Seeing surname Hodgson, suggests there might be a possible link to Hodgson in Sarah Russell's lineage, but that needs a lot more searching.

It also seems from some very initial research notes made that Morley might link to these families.

Morley was another surname my late Grandmother told me I was related to.

Mark