George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W

[dobfarm]

Thank you Dave

I think we looked at the rather poor witness signatures (from the microfilm scan) on here, of that 1778 John Hood, Marriage, at London, after finding the Scarborough, Yorkshire, 1778 Marriage Licence.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=812140.msg6724668#msg6724668

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Bear in mind there were two John Hood, marriages at Scarborough around the mid 18th Century period, who were not the same John Hood.

Added and then Updated:-

1759
John Hood of Scarborough 37 years & upwards married Elizabeth Hood of Scarborough, 21 years and upwards, a Spinster.

1763
The other John Hood 25 yrs & upwards, married Elizabeth Leppington 26 yrs & upwards and the Licence I got also confirmed she was a Widow (no mention of widow, nor their ages in the Marriage Register, so Licences must always be seen! If they married by Licence. )

I think you had already worked out that Elizabeth Spencer must have first married John Leppington in 1756 at Scarborough, Yorkshire, to agree with the first child Elizabeth of Charles & Maudland Turner (nee Hood) Register information, baptised in 1795 at Selby, Yorkshire, to link the ancestry of Maudland Hood to John Spencer of Scarborough, Mariner.

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If James Hood didn't know who his Grandmother was, he could use surnames of his known Aunts and Uncles, or Nieces and Nephews and this practice, even mixed with surnames of your parentage and your Wife's parentage is done.

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In the Selby Register, they didn't seem to know, or the information was withheld, as to who Jane Hood was, buried 15th August 1803, aged 65 years.

I am also looking at the possibility (not completed yet) that the Surnames of COOK and PEARSON were Cousins or descendants from the Grandmother of James HOOD born Selby and obviously his Brothers and Sisters:- William HOOD, John HOOD, George HOOD and the late Richard HOOD and his three sisters Sarah, Mary and Ellen HOOD the last four names who died before Marriage.

Some Surname middle naming sequences can be also be in a parallel line of descent, from an ancestor Mother and we have a COCKING (witness) at the 1815 Marriage at Selby.

After finding in an 1881 Census by chance for COWICK (usually in Snaith) but bordering and in Goole, with a William COCKIN, 74, born Stainforth, with a George COOK, 52, Gardener.

This made think of children born to Father COCKIN(G) and the Mother Maiden Surname COOK and vice versa.

I applied for a number of £3 Birth Certificate examples.

In the nearby Registration District of Goole (when the large selection of Birth Certificate variables were downloaded), there were obviously two COOK couples where the Mother was Maiden Surname COCKIN and at Goole, having children.

1865
Arthur Son of William COOK and Emma COCKING, Docks Labourer, at Old Goole.

1865
John Singleton COOK, Son of John COOK and Martha COCKIN, Seaman, (Merchant Service).

I am not quite sure whether I have the earliest Births yet of the COOK = COCKIN(G) and not checked vice versa.

William Cockin

William COCKIN, born Stainforth, Yorkshire, 10th January 1827, from a Masters and Mates Certificate.

Found two Births at West Stockwith and Registered Gainsborough:-
1854 Sarah Elizabeth COCKIN
1856 William COCKIN,
Father: William Cockin
Mother: Martha COCKIN formerly Martha PEARSON.

Also three more Births seemingly the same couple at Goole, Yorkshire:-
1858 John COCKIN (parentage confirmed)
1861 Charles COCKIN
1866 Charles Edward COCKING

In the Vessels Census:-
Martha COCKIN(G) [nee Pearson], was born Clayworth, Nottinghamshire (Notts).

1851Census
Martha Pearson, Head, U, 24, born Clayworth, Notts, was an Innkeeper at West Stockwith, East Retford, Notts. Registration District Gainsborough.

Updated from Certificate image now:-

1853, at Sisterton, County of Nottingham on 31st December, by Licence
William COCKING, full, Bachelor, Mariner, Goole, Father: John COCKING, Mariner.
Martha PEARSON, full, Spinster, West Stockwith, Father: William Pearson, Mariner.
Present (wits) Charles Pearson ; Ann Eliza Bramham.

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That witness is interesting, another 1868 Birth Certificate with Mother Maiden name Nancy Bramman and Father name Daniel COOK.

Also a Bramham in the GRO Index.

Martha Pearson married at Misterton, Nottinghamshire, near to the place where she was Innkeeper.

Comment
The Cockin = Pearson, marriage is certainly before the Birth of Bernard PEARSON HOOD, at Scarborough to James HOOD and Sarah ARUNDEL.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Your thinking is sound slowly trying to find connections of surnames to James Hood children's middle name surnames if only to eliminate.

Elizabeth Spencer /Leppington & John Hood (death Selby 1819) had ! had at least 1 or maybe 2 George's born 1770's children who died.


     So - John Hood mariner of Scarborough wanted a son George and years later John Hood mariner of Scarborough turns up in Selby and a George Hood right age to be his son also highly probable
mother Jane Hood wife of John Hood mariner of Selby.

Were John and Jane Hood living over the brush and George was born illegitimate in her surname but never recorded.

(Possible Jane was from Gateshead as John Hood being a mariner docking there.)

[BushInn1746]

William COCKIN of the parish of Snaith bachelor and Ann ROBINSON of this parish (Hatfield) spinster

married after Banns 12 June 1830 by Thomas Fox, minister

William Cockin signed, Ann Robinson left her mark

Witnesses: John ? ? -orth and William COOKE

Witness John Hepworth

William Cockin third child of Aran and Ann Cockin bpt 16 Feb. 1806, born: 3 Jan. 1806
Hatfield, father a labourer of Stainforth.

No marriage I can see for the parents just a record of the Banns
Araan Cockin of Hatfield Parish and Ann Wilkinson of the parish of Everton, November 1797.

1853
The 1853 Marriage at Misterton, Notts of
William Cockin of Goole, Mariner (Father, John Cockin, Mariner) and
Martha Pearson, Spinster of West Stockwith (Father, William Pearson, Mariner)

1850
Fortunately, the Master's Certificate of John Cockin, Mariner, survives, along with his Return and says:-

According to the back of his Service which John Cockin had passed to the Merchant Seaman Office, he had failed to give his Birth and they wouldn't issue him with a Master Certificate to begin with and it was returned, which he then completes.

I request that my Certificate may be transmitted to the Custom House of the Port of GOOLE. Signed John Cockin

John Cockin, Mariner, was born Stainforth, Yorkshire on 24 April 1798 [in the Parish of Hatfield]

1799, 9th June
Baptism Hatfield BT says:-
John, Aaron Cockin of Stainforth Labr, Ann [of] Jno Wilkinson Tickhill.
Same entry next line
Harriet illegitimate of Eliz Cockin late of Doncaster.

1798 Everton, Nottinghamshire
23rd November
Aaron Cockin of Stainforth in the Parish of Hatfield
Ann Wilkinson of this Parish of Everton Spinster.
Wit's: John Kent ; Benj Fullwood.

1837 Burial at Hatfield
Aaron Cockin, Abode Stainforth, Buried 30 April, 76 y'rs, by T. Fox.

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The two James Cockin signatures (for comparison) with George Hood's 1815 Marriage witness James Cockin (where there is a pause in the forming of the k, at Selby, Yorks are:-

1791 Thorne, Yorkshire
James Cockin and Mary Torr
Wits: John Cockin ; Susana Cortham
[Susy Coatem signed Sussy Coatham married Wm Green in 1793 at Thorne]

1789 South Cave, by Banns
James Cockin of this Parish Bachelor
Frances Corner, Spinster of ye same
Wits:- John Jenkinson ; John Wilson

According to the Register note underneath this marriage it says:-  "the above sent to Court"

James Cockin of Stainforth was later in York Castle, accused of Sheep Stealing and I've wondered if the marriage related to the sheep thief. Joseph Rowbottom was co accused.

James Cockin, was discharged.

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No, (or not directly), the case was in 1836 and the newspaper said he was 40. Unless he was trying to prove a family link, to get a lighter sentence.

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Interesting that when John Cockin was born in 1858, his parents William Cockin, a a Seaman (Merchant Service) and Martha (nee Pearson) his Wife, lived at Rowbotham Buildings, Goole.

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Regarding, Mary Torr, her Father was John Torr of Hatfield Woodhouse, Lab'r and James Cockin was the Son of Ja's Cockin, Farmer, of Barnby Dun.

The Son, James Cockin seems to be the one buried at Armthorpe 11th January 1824, 67 years, birth about 1757 and there is a baptism at Barnby Dun 22 August 1756, James Son of James Cocking.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Jane Hood wife of John Hood burial 1803 Selby aged 65 = born 1738


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A name of interest to look at for Jane Hood above and/or as a separate illegitimate mother of George Hood b 1786

Jane Cockin baptised 8th Jan 1736 father Christopher Cockin of Fishlake Yorkshire.

Need to find of this Jane married someone else



Being Cockin witness to George and Sarah marriage 1815 Selby

Cockin's stem Doncaster area




 

[BushInn1746]

Thanks Dave

1736/1737
A Register of the Baptisms in the Parish of Fishlake

8th Jan'y, Jane Dr. Of Christopher Cockin, Husbandman.


1838, 16th April at Barnby Dun
The burial of a Jane here was the Daughter of Allan Cockin.

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Here is an interesting Marriage (but looking for other possibles):-

1760 Luddington, Lincs 16th October
By Banns

Richard COOK of this Parish &
Joanna COCKIN of (blank, no Parish or place given)
Wits: William Tyler ; Jonathan Fletcher

Amended:
The reference to the Fletcher surname was a separate search.

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I think you said recently Dave, that Joan was used for Jane?

Mark

[dobfarm]

Yes! my brothers deceased wife's (cancer) 2023 sister is called Jane but goes by the name Joan and ironically lives in Scarborough.

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While looking for eliminating possible surnames/maiden names theories of interest-
 
James Cockin witness to the George and Sarah marriage Selby 1815 - is it possible he was could have been a resident of Selby as the time to find his near family history connections pre and post the 1815 George marriage or was he regular church/abbey witness of marriages.

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dave

I am very sorry to hear about your Brother's Wife.


1797 Luddington Burials
Joan Widow of Richard Cook Lab'r March 24th.

This Selby situation is a bit like the lack of detail in the Newcastle records too, where a bit more detail back then, is all that is needed now.

Failing that, we are left with:-

Names of the children of James Hood & Sarah Arundel.
Suggestion in the 1815 Marriage notice that George Hood may have been local.
The 1841 Census for Birth in the same County.
A definite branch from my line, Evelyn Hood Marshall in 1906 has definitely married into the same Grubb Family, that a child and grandchild of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) married into.
Witness names at marriages.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Hello Dave

I am very sorry to hear about your Brother's Wife.


1797 Luddington Burials
Joan Widow of Richard Cook Lab'r March 24th.

This Selby situation is a bit like the lack of detail in the Newcastle records too, where a bit more detail back then, is all that is needed now.

Failing that, we are left with:-

Names of the children of James Hood & Sarah Arundel.
Suggestion in the 1815 Marriage notice that George Hood may have been local.
The 1841 Census for Birth in the same County.
A definite branch from my line, Evelyn Hood Marshall in 1906 has definitely married into the same Grubb Family, that a child and grandchild of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) married into.
Witness names at marriages.

Mark

Are we taking to many assumptions for granted on John Hood of Selby

I’ve read somewhere in your posts there were 2 John Hood mariners of Scarborough about the same time period. Is it possible Maudland Turner (nee Hood)  was in Selby under her own devises and had no connect what so ever to the John Hood mariner living in Selby.

Was John Hood of Selby the John Hood who married Jane Marshall in Pickering 28th March 1765 both Bride & Groom age 27 bond allegation born 1738

Jane Marshall born 19th Jan baptised 30th Jan 1737 Pickering father John Marshall

Jane Hood wife of John Hood mariner buried Selby age 65 born 1738

It will be interesting to read that 1765 Pickering bond allegation


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Seems this John Hood was a Bleacher by trade

Back to drawing board

Think it maybe easier trying to find who Robin Hood was than your ruddy George of Selby.