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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #765 on: Sunday 10 September 17 17:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thank you dobfarm.

Upon reflection Goughy, your suggestion is very plausible and Wilkinson is very likely accounted for as Father (or possibly as Step-Father).

I couldn't put John Aundel as my Father on my Marriage, then sign (and expect witnesses to sign too), if he were not my Father.

Yes dobfarm, Ellen and Alfred, although they can be surnames, could well be first names.

There are quite a number of naming sequences and one of these also refers to the possibility of Godparents and the use of Aunts and Uncles.

Ellen Hood was James Hood's Sister, so Ellen an Aunt to James child.

Alfred is an interesting one, if he was not a Godparent, giving Alfred Hood perhaps?

That leaves Pearson and Cook.

Cook could fit in with the John Hood & Elizabeth Gibson, so it is not discarded.

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Although Pearson; the missing Presbyterian records at Selby; no Jane Hood marriage; George Hood born Yorkshire 1841 (a few of which may be wrong in the Census), are all troubling me and these that can be ruled out, I need to rule out.

We wish to have a good scout about in the Abbey, another look at the Abbey Floor etc., see where the reference to the Samuel Hood 1780 event originates from (it is not in Selby Church book when the floor was relaid, nor Register); visit the Quaker Burial ground and have already sent a letter asking to see withheld Selby Registers. Information and the answer as to who Jane was, might be in Catholic records.

We know Lord Petre was a Catholic and Catholic Lords of the Manor, were often sympathetic to Catholics, or people who helped those presecuted.

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« Reply #766 on: Sunday 10 September 17 18:11 BST (UK) »
We wish to have a good scout about in the Abbey, another look at the Abbey Floor etc., see where the reference to the Samuel Hood 1780 event originates from (it is not in Selby Church book when the floor was relaid, nor Register); visit the Quaker Burial ground and have already sent a letter asking to see withheld Selby Registers. Information and the answer as to who Jane was, might be in Catholic records.
The "Quaker Burial Ground" is now just a very small recently renovated garden with only one or two headstones from the year dot.  The bulk of the Burial Ground was an orchard and is now a car park. 
This information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Interests:  Johnson/Knight/Talbot (Caunton/Maplebeck); Camm/Ramskar (Sheffield); Sarginson/King/Fletcher/Lowther (Howden); Silversides/Tomlinson (Riccall); Atkinson (Selby)

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« Reply #767 on: Sunday 10 September 17 20:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks Goughy. Selby Quaker Burial Ground was once called Summerfield.

I'm very disappointed a car park was built over part of it, but King Richard III was found under a car park.

Mark

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« Reply #768 on: Tuesday 12 September 17 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hello

Regarding Jane Hood (Jane Casson Hood), of Westfield in the Parish of Brayton, Selby, Widow of William Hood of Selby. (William Hood bapt. Selby 1816 Son of George Hood & Sarah Russell).

Jane Hood lists items in 1893 and said Jane Simpson was her Cousin and also refers to a "worked map of Ireland".

You worked out the Peacock connection to Casson.


a) Any help please with Jane Simpson's identity?
(Not sure if the Thomas Simpson attachment is of use, or not)

EDIT: Where it refers to the painting of Jane Simpson by Richmond, I have received information which says "Jane Simpson by W. B. Richmond", so an Artist and not the place.

So possibly William Blake Richmond was the artist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blake_Richmond


b) Also a "map of Ireland"? Not the usual object for a Yorkshire household?


1724 - Pearson connection with Selby and Ireland
Richard Pierson (also spelt Richard Pearson) of Selby (Brother Thomas Firman) also had property in Ireland, as well as Selby, Will of Richard Peirson of Selby 7th June 1724.

Rather interesting as Pearson's original Will seems to be registered as a property Memorial ...
Memorial Registered Wakefield 12 April 1733, [Vol.] EE page 596 et Numb 872.

Also a separate Indenture of 1708
Indenture between Joseph Hall of Selby Yeoman And Richard Peirson of Selby in the County of York.
Summary -
Messuage or Tenement with the Barn Stable Malt Kiln Horse Mill, Garth Garden or Orchard thereto and all the other buildings thereto adjoining in Ouzgate [Ousegate] Selby abutting on the Church Dam toward South and the River Ouse toward the North the Messuage or Tenement of Francis Walmesley Esq called the Suger house towards the Croft and the Messuage or Tenement of Mary the now wife of Isaack Bernard towards the West and now in the occupation of the said Joseph Hall his under Tennants or Assigns together with all and Singular Outhouses Edifices Garths Commons Common of Pasture Ways Watercourses profitts Commodities Hereditaments and Appurtenances whatsoever to the said Messuage or Tenement and Premises hereinbefore mentioned or in any wise appteyning or therewithall used occupied or Enjoyed [sic] ...

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #769 on: Tuesday 12 September 17 12:05 BST (UK) »
Hi

When Mary Peacock (Jane Cassons mother) was born one of the witnesses in the register was a Jane Pennock.

An Amey Pennock (bn Seamer) married a William Simpson (from Hull) in Seamer 1795. (Anglican marriage)

Their daughter Jane Simpson was bpt. a Quaker in 1798.
Father was a house carpenter and joiner.

This daughter Jane Simpson went on to marry a William Simpson a school master in 1823 (Quaker marriage)

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« Reply #770 on: Tuesday 12 September 17 12:27 BST (UK) »
Hello

Thanks Claire.

Jane also says in 2nd attachment ...
"Map of England & Wales worked by my Mother,"

so the reference to the map in the 1st attachment
"my Mother's workbox worked map of Ireland"
is probably also Jane Mother's.

I can't take the reference to Ireland as a possible clue for Hood.

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« Reply #771 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 22:00 BST (UK) »
Yeh But!! George's son William Hood did not marry Jane Casson ( born 1818 Thorne) till 1851 in Scarborough some 6 years after George Hood died Selby 1845 aged 60. So how would Jane Casson's relatives (or her mother) be connected to aforesaid George Hood or source of his birth place some 66 years in 1785 to 1787 (ish) before as they married 1851 ???
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #772 on: Thursday 14 September 17 21:15 BST (UK) »
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Yes dobfarm, It does not seem the map of Ireland belonged to the Hood side (per my last post), looks like it was worked by Jane Casson's Mother.

One Yorkshire John HOOD was late of JAMAICA in the West Indies.

Will August 1774 John Hood of York; Heworth and late of Jamaica
John Hood of the Parish of St Sampson in the City of York but late of Jamaica in the West Indies Merchant ... I give and bequeath to my own Mother Ann Harrison Widow of the City of York now residing in Sop Lane in the Parish of St Michael Le Belfrey all my Estate of Real and Personal ...
two friends Thomas Gray Merchant in Aldermanbury Street in the City of London and Edward Clough Proctor of the Parish of St Michael Le Belfrey in the City of York ...
bequeath to John Waugh born of the body of Ann Waugh about four years of age in the Parish of Welton in the East Riding of the County of York ...
reference to the - sale of my whole Estate and Effects - payment of interest - annuity ...
Witnesses John Atkinson Rob't Pearson John Wallis 14 September 1769

Codicil 5 November 1770 make void the Legacy to John Waugh of £100 and be part of my Personal Estate ...


Another entry says this John Hood was formerly of the Island of Jamaica in the West Indies, late of the Parish of St Sampson in the City of York, dying at Heworth in the County of York Merchant.

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« Reply #773 on: Friday 15 September 17 12:53 BST (UK) »
Doing a  blank open Hood (and known possible connection sunames) search in Ireland, Isle of man, Channel Isles and Scotland (or even India ? or empire dominions) makes sense in its own right especially Wills/probate records also  parish and other denomination of discerners records. Unless George was a self made man from poor law education & apprenticeship origins of his low needed start up funds somewhere. Skills George learned, picking up bankrupt business tools of the trade & chance of existing set up cooper premises to rent and did a deal with the Prete's. Modest inherited funding left in a Will could explain the restart of R Gibson's Cooper by George.

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Finding a Cooper to rekindle existing laid out barrel making premises for rent with some kind of deal 'pay back as you work loan' deal & business accounting help by Lord Petre or his estate with parish admin .
   
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth