Author Topic: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W  (Read 197535 times)

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,768
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #756 on: Friday 25 August 17 19:30 BST (UK) »
Click this link to see earlier images ...
Hi

William Richardson married Mary Blenkin in Hemingborough 1816. ( Parents)

A daughter Hannah baptised 1817,  SARAH was baptised 1819 and brother John was baptised 1821, there are possibly more siblings.
John & his wife are a few doors away from Sarah Hood (widow of GH) on Gowthorpe in the 1851 census. On the cemetery plan you put on the thread, John Richardson & wife are at the top of the column where your Hoods are third in the column


Morning All,

Both sites I've looked at can't decide on Hirlew or Kirlew. Either way, my guess she is Sarah Hood nee Richardsons Aunt.

Sarah's mother was Mary Blenkin.

Martha Blenkin bn 1795 Hemingborough married at Hemingborough in 1820

Martha Blenkin mar. John Kirlew brickmaker & widower 11 October 1820
He signed she left her mark.
Witnesses: John & William Blenkhorn & Mary Pacey.



Quote from: BushInn1746 link=topic=756955.msg6311027#msg6311027 date=150313304

[u
Martha Hirlew, Visitor, 1871 Selby Census[/u]

This Martha Hirlew is a Visitor to Sarah Hood (nee Richardson), but I have only found a possible Hurlow a Quaker, but a bit early, but wondered please if there might be some Hood link to her family previously?

Newspapers have few Hirlews in England and the others are in Irish newspapers.

RG 10 (1871)
Sarah HOOD, Head, W, 51, Born Selby.
Martha HIRLEW, Visitor, W, 78, No Occupation, Born Selby.

Hi Mark

I think this is Martha KIRLEW (we've looked into her before).  She was Martha Blenkin and married John Kirlew in Hemingbrough in 1820.  I don't think we found any Hood link.

EDIT - we must have hit the button at the same time Claire :)


Marriage

Charles Hood of Hunmanby married Ruth Pearson after Banns 29 Nov. 1831

Both left their mark
Witnesses : Hannah Blinking * (looks like)
James ? ?

* Blenkin was the maiden surname of Sarah Richardsons mother was it not ?


Thank you Bumblebee and Claire (today) and earlier reply from Goughy

I like the BLINKIN link to this Charles HOOD Marriage question I put on today AND the other BLENKIN connection to MY HOODs (Sarah Richardson marr John Hood of Selby)?

Distant Hoods perhaps?? OR
One of our PEARSON family I'm looking for?? OR
Blenkin and Blinkin - a coincidence (not related to each other)?

Anything in it please?

Mark

Offline ..claire..

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,949
  • Genealogy...Life in the Past Lane
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #757 on: Sunday 27 August 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

Hannah BLENKING was baptised 25 Dec. 1808 Skipsea - Bapt included. She also married in 1832 a Robert DOLPHIN in Skipsea
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,768
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #758 on: Sunday 27 August 17 17:28 BST (UK) »
Hi

Hannah BLENKING was baptised 25 Dec. 1808 Skipsea - Bapt included. She also married in 1832 a Robert DOLPHIN in Skipsea

Thanks Claire

The Danby surname jumps off the page straight away, possibly not for the right reason (as there may be no connection). But one Danby is later linked to Hood who came from Scotland 1659/1660, who settled at Kirkbridge etc., Yorkshire and elsewhere.


I've located another set records, not even online, nor even indexed going back hundreds of years, made a preliminary inquiry to visit and I'll hopefully have an answer (said that before) by the end of next month, as to whether they'll confirm George's parentage!

So relax, enjoy the weather, and/or your own family trees!!

Mark

Offline ..claire..

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,949
  • Genealogy...Life in the Past Lane
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #759 on: Sunday 27 August 17 17:40 BST (UK) »
Nearly jumped off my seat

William Richardson = Mary Blenkin marriage in 1816

A witness was a Richard DALBY
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,768
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #760 on: Sunday 27 August 17 19:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire

Finding a RUSSELL Catholic with a RICHARDSON sponsor at Selby and all the other Varieties of Religions in my family, I've been checking with the Tomato Sauce & Beans Factory, if I can have "57" added in my name!  ;D  ???

Mark

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,768
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #761 on: Saturday 09 September 17 11:39 BST (UK) »
For the purpose of elimination here's some surnames from Sarah's parentage (including step father Wilkinson)

Arundel - Grandparents:            George ARUNDEL and Hannah EYRE
               Grt grandparents:      Joseph EYRE and Hannah PYGOT
                                               Mathew ARUNDEL and Ann JACKSON

Wilkinson   "step" grandparents  Edward WILKINSON and Margaret TWIST
                    "gt  grandparents  John TWIST and Rebecca CRABTREE
                                                William WILKINSON and Jane ??

and just to put James' parentage here for future reference (obviously only from the Russell side)

Russell     Grandparents            William RUSSELL and Mary BURTON
               Gt grandparents         John RUSSELL and Martha HOTCHSON
                                              Edward BURTON and William SILVERWOOD

From Part 3 of the George Hood Burial where? ...  thread (now completed)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.msg5964598#msg5964598

Quote from Goughy Reply #174 of 08 November 2015

Hi Mark

I thought it would be useful to just put down James and Sarah's  family for "tracking purposes"

Mary Ellen Hood b Selby 1853
Elizabeth Cook Hood b Selby 1854
Adeline Hood b Selby 1855
Sarah Hood b Selby 1856
John Wilkinson Hood b Selby 1858
William Russell Hood b Selby 1861
  [born 1860, registered 1861]
James Alfred Hood b Sunderland  1863
George Arundel Hood b 1865 Selby
Bernard Pearson Hood b 1870 Scarborough

In the 1871 Census, Mary Ellen Hood is staying with a Dobson family in Bowling, Bradford and is stated as "cousin".  The head of household is Thomas Duckworth Dobson b 1829 Wakefield  and his wife Mary Ann b 1833 London, Middlesex.  Thomas Duckworth Dobson married Mary Ann Bateman in 1855 in Selby.


END of QUOTE
 -------------------


Hi

That "George" on Sarah Arundel's "Illegitimate Child" Baptism record, must be her Grandfather? In the back of the Wesleyan Register George Arundel is their "Society Steward".

So when Sarah Arundel puts John Arundel on her Marriage Certificate for Father, she is definitely suggesting she is a result of an incestuous liaison, or both her parents were Arundel.

Because if you are a known illegitimate Daughter to Mary Arundel, you don't put John Arundel for your Father on your Marriage, with George (on the Illegitimate Register entry), unless your Father was actually John Arundel. It makes no sense to me, to make it look like an incestuous relationship, if it wasn't incest.

James Hood's decendants were led to believe that Sarah Arundel's Father was a male Arundel, when she was both known to be illegitimate and her Mother was Mary Arundel.

John Wilkinson might be no more than Sarah Arundel's Step-Father by marriage to the Mother, only.

 --------

Wilkinson might be yet another surname also with links to my mystery George Hood, descent.

When a George Hood appears in the Knottingley Land Tax in 1813, the owner is George WILKINSON and the year before (1812) a John COOK was occupying the same premises.

Image extracts here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758380.msg6086926#msg6086926

Regards Mark

Offline Goughy

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 615
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #762 on: Saturday 09 September 17 12:09 BST (UK) »
That "George" on Sarah Arundel's "Illegitimate Child" Baptism record, must be her Grandfather? In the back of the Wesleyan Register George Arundel is their "Society Steward".

So when Sarah Arundel puts John Arundel on her Marriage Certificate for Father, she is definitely suggesting she is a result of an incestuous liaison, or both her parents were Arundel.

Because if you are a known illegitimate Daughter to Mary Arundel, you don't put John Arundel for your Father on your Marriage, with George (on the Illegitimate Register entry), unless your Father was actually John Arundel. It makes no sense to me, to make it look like an incestuous relationship, if it wasn't incest.


John Wilkinson might be no more than Sarah Arundel's Step-Fathe

Hi Mark

Yes, George on her baptism record is her grandfather.  As far as using the name "John Arundel" as her father on her marrigage certificate.  It was very common for known illegitimate people to "make-up" a father's name when marrying - it happened "a lot" in my family!  As you know, her mum married John Wilkinson, Stone mason and on her marriage certificate father recorded as John Arundel stone mason, so for me she simply used the first name and occupation of her step-father (who obviously brought her up as his daughter) for marriage purposes. 
This information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Interests:  Johnson/Knight/Talbot (Caunton/Maplebeck); Camm/Ramskar (Sheffield); Sarginson/King/Fletcher/Lowther (Howden); Silversides/Tomlinson (Riccall); Atkinson (Selby)

Offline BushInn1746

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,768
  • George Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire 31st Jan'y 1847
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #763 on: Saturday 09 September 17 12:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

It makes absolutely no sense to claim Sarah Arundel's Father was a male Arundel, when her Birth says "Illegitimate Child" to Mary Arundel.

I'm only raising this, because the Wilkinson surname has brief links to George Hood at Knottingley in 1813.

Mark

Online dobfarm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,906
  • Scarcliffe village Derbyshire
    • View Profile
Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #764 on: Sunday 10 September 17 10:37 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Some of George Hood's grandchildren (by James Hood, George Hood's son) carried surnames in their middle names, named after earlier generations.

One carried COOK (Elizabeth Cook Hood), being named after ?
One carried WILKINSON (John Wilkinson Hood) linked to James wife Sarah - Sarah's side.
One carried RUSSELL (William Russell Hood), being the maiden surname of George Hood's wife, Sarah (Sarah Russell).
One carried ALFRED (James Alfred Hood) Alfred, either a surname or forename.
One carried ARUNDEL (George Arundel Hood), being James Hood's wife Sarah Hood (nee Arundel)
One carried PEARSON (Bernard Pearson Hood)


Having been totally misled by the Selby BT Marriage copy and my original photocopy from film (posted from Selby Library) which was reproduced fairly light, I have now managed to get a better image of the original 1815 Selby Marriage entry, which I attach.

James Cookin W

My wife who worked as a Clerk in a Solicitors and then spent all her working life in various admin rolls, feels the signature could say ...

James Cook in W meaning ...

James Cook in Witness

Apparently, prefixing or following your signature by the words in Witness was used on documents.

Sarah's Signature
It seems that Sarah has started her signature and been advised to sign further to the right and has started again.

Now, I'm wondering if the mystery Cook, was James Cook and a relation? 

Thank you.
Regards Mark


First child of James and Sarah Hood nee Arundal was Mary Ellen Hood.

Being the first child could mean importance.

Ellen or Ellin is used as a surname or a Mary Ellen used as combined  one first name using two first names as they rhyme as one name, like "Mary-Ellen Walton" in the TV Walton's serial.

Mary Ellen (with a maiden name) could be a mother or a (or Gt) grandmothers first name in the Hood or Arundel families

or two sisters one Mary and another Ellen

Just a thought
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth