George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W

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Sarah Hammond widow intent to marry John Hood mariner of Scarborough 1778

Sarah ---Who------ ? (Pearson ?) (Cook ?) (Cockin ) (Simpson?) (Gibson ?)

[..claire..]

Just using dates from 1760- 1778 there are 8 Hammond marriages to a 'Sarah' 

However, one of them: John Hammond to Sarah Parkin on 21 Jan 1768 at St Giles without Cripplegate

One of the images from the Bond states Sarah Hammond had been living in the parish of St Giles. Not conclusive,  and she was a widow again from the parish of St Botolph Aldersgate at this marriage to Mr Parkin

George Parkin married Sarah WALKER 8 Jul 1759 at St Botolph Aldersgate  ... and she was a spinster

Can you find a John Hood / Sarah Hammond marriage ?

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I think your original theory that this well educated George Hood from place unknown was drawn to Selby by the newspaper report on R Gibson bankruptcy Wren lane to make a go as a new cooper business, a young man out of his time as an apprentice ready to spread his wings and new skills. His tools, get a new rent agreement was all that was needed for a  fresh start, as the business goodwill to Gibson went with him down the drain. The Quaker movement may have been his drive or support out of range of the parish admin which would have been an obstacle too him setting up as an outsider.

[BushInn1746]

Hi

Don't worry, regarding George Hood of Selby, I am attempting various ways to look at both and have everything so far, downloaded, printed and filed:-

1. John Hood of Selby, Mariner, who appears to be in Selby from circa 1781 (John Hood Father of Maudland Hood by nee Elizabeth Spencer at Scarborough). Maudland Hood's Mother is known and she is believed to have died 1775.

However, John Hood's wife buried Selby 1803, Jane Hood is unknown. If her Marriage is missing, so might a Birth of hers, be missing also.

and

2. John Hood of Newcastle and North Shields area and also a Mariner married Elizabeth Gibson. (Richard Gibson came from Newcastle).

I'm having to continue to consider both John Hoods (both Mariners). The information in the Gateshead 1786 Geo Hood baptism is far too scant to identify the John Hood in the record, to override the George Hood being born Yorkshire record. At some point, we were supposed to be from Scotland, suggesting Presbyterian or Catholic etc.

The Selby records are either missing / location unknown for Presbyterian before 1797.

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WYAS say Roman Catholic records are generally on 100 year closure, but Selby RC have withheld all their Roman Catholic Registers (excepting those requested by the Registrar General (RG) circa 1837 and were sent to the RG (now in TNA) ), but these RC Registers only go back about 40 years prior to the RG request circa 1838.


The Quakers delayed sending their Registers to the RG for a few years, because they wanted to ensure certain information was separated from their records into the Registers they deposited (which go back 100s of years), because Quakers hold two sets of Records, their BMD Registers and Records of their Meetings at Monthly; Quarterly and Yearly.


There is no Tax Paid on Apprentices either, for my George Hood.


1743 - Archbishop's Herring's Visitation - Selby
The Parish of Selby contains about 300 families of which:-
15 were Presbyterians
15 were Quakers
9 Papists (Roman Catholic)

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Only Selby Quaker Births, Marriages and Burials (submitted to the RG about late 1830s-1840) and Anglican (C of E) Baptisms/Births are accessible online, for the period around the time of George Hood's birth.


The 1743 visitations indicate 15 Presbyterian families, so many more than the handful in the Selby Parish Register.


John Mush of Selby is confirmed as Presbytarian / Presbitarian (John Mush was in the 1727 Will of Roger Hood of Selby).

I'm treading carefully, because I don't want to get back to the 1600s or even earlier with all the scans and suddenly new scans appears online, confirming I've gone down the wrong descent line.


I don't think there is much more that Rootschatters can do now, until I've seen the Quaker Minutes at Leeds and also receive the first replies.


Searching, a number of Hood Wills, held in the Borthwick and purchasing some and viewing all those Hood Durham probates online c.1750 to 1840s, have not led anywhere yet


Thank you all, for all the replies and research done, links to free online images and photos taken etc.

Regards Mark

[BushInn1746]

Regarding Jane Hood of Selby.

An old Oxford Press Dictionary of English Christian names is also saying JEHANE & JOAN for Jane.

I've tried both Jane and Janet Hood on Scotlands People already, but not Joan yet.

Briefly, JANE is the feminine of John, giving Jehane.

JOAN is also linked, to Jhone, Jonet, Jehane, Johan (also linked to JOHANNA or Johna), Jahan; Johan - Yorks 1379; Johne - Lincs 1459; Ione Lincs - 1535; Jonet - Lincs 1450.

I have heard in the 18th Century that the Church of England tried to standardise some spellings, e.g. making as many Hudd to Hood as possible.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

I cannot for the life of me find a marriage for this couple.

Scottish equivalent of Jane is Jean also. That seems very common amongst Scottish records I've seen before.

[BushInn1746]

Hi

Thanks Claire

SCOTLAND

"A marriage by "cohabitation with repute" as it was known in Scots Law could still be formed; popularly described as "by habit and repute", with repute being the crucial element to be proved. In 2006, Scotland was the last European jurisdiction to abolish this old style common-law marriage or "marriage by cohabitation with repute"."


I wonder if Wife, Jane Hood of Selby really was married to John Hood, although this John Hood had married previously. I had heard consumation in Scotland, could mean waking up in the morning married!    


In Scotland whether married or not, it was often the custom to put the Wife's nee surname on the Headstone and the M.I.s looked at last year in Dumfries are full of these, e.g.

Example, would look like this
John Hood, aged 82
1819
Jane Cook, aged 65,
1803
Wife of the Above.


This may be why James Hood has included some surnames in his childrens names.


Perhaps Selby Church may have been forced to bury Jane and they recorded her as Hood, to save people asking questions, afterall they didn't want to suggest that the Scottish arrangement, was okay in England.

Checked newspapers again, but my Hoods don't appear until 1815 and I can't prove the earlier John Hood Mariners are mine, due to the number of John Hood, Mariners.

Regards Mark

[BushInn1746]

Family search is saying Elizabeth Hood, parents John and Sarah

Hi

Just been trying a few names out, because Sarah Hood (nee Arundel) was baptised Wesleyan at Selby.

Birth: Jan 18 1854 - Selby, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom Christening: Aug 11 1859 - Wesleyan Methodist, Hinckley, Leicester, England Parents: James Hood, Sarah Hood (born Arundel)


EDIT: Above information regarding a Selby Birth with a Hinckley baptism appears to be incorrect.
Family search - Elizabeth Hood, parents John and Sarah at Hinckley.

Always essential to check original baptism record, or a scan of the original record.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

Mark - where is that info from, if you don't mind me asking. It's not showing up on either of the main sites. It may have been transcribed wrongly or something.

Anc* coverage only include records for Hinckley to 1837.

There is a Hood record in there in 1837 to a Thomas and Elizabeth, plenty of Hoods in the registers though. Noticed a Hood in the Presbyterian records for the Bardon Park and Ashby de la Zouch Chapels.