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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #432 on: Saturday 27 May 17 12:18 BST (UK) »

William Massey of Spalding, Lincs son of John Massey of the same place and Elizabeth his wife married Sarah PROCTOR daughter of Thomas PROCTOR of SELBY and Mary his wife. Date: 08 Jul 1785 at York

Relations by surname Priestman, Proctor, Belton, Tuke

John Massey, father of the above of Spalding yeoman married Elizabeth Newbold of Leeds, widow on 26 Oct. 1758

Relations : HIRD ( quite a few witnesses by this name too) , Westgarth, English, Horner

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Been looking at this William Massey of Selby, Merchant, Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, Merchant, George Hood, along with the former owners and their Solicitors being the parties who signed the Release, regarding the Two Dwelling houses, Brewhouse and Carpenters shop, in Wren Lane, Selby (in the Petre and Others to Hood, 1836 Memorial Registration).

Wren Lane, Selby advertised in 1835.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752270.1

Massey and Hutchinson looked to be involved previously (at least) with George Hood's brewing operation, at Selby, in the 1836 Memorial registration.

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CASES IN CHANCERY
Duke of Norfolk and others v. R. Myers and others

Edward Robert Petre died before the year 1813 and the Duke of Norfolk were Charles Duke of Norfolk / Barnard Edward Howard (Trustees). The Mill was Let to Plaintiffs John Richardson & William Massey.

This appears to be a dispute over the milling rights of corn, grain and malt, in the Manor and Town of Selby.

Since 1812/1813 Robert Myers, John Capes, and John Bradley have it seems milled their own.

[Baines 1822 - John Bradley, Ousegate, Brewer; John Capes, Gowthorpe, Brewer and John Foster, Crescent, Brewer. Edward Bradley; William Burton; Michl. Gibson; Susannah Walker; John Hodgson AND Others were listed under Bakers and Flour Dealers]


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AfY2AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA56&lpg=RA1-PA56&dq=%22William+Massey%22+Selby&source=bl&ots=CczntoMiwH&sig=N3l2De1fCoB8VH5Fji99jG9JwbE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHm6aM4Y_UAhUlCMAKHdvvCfQQ6AEIKzAF

Edit: (Published 1829) 1819 The claim appears to be that the old Selby custom, was that the Lord's Mill was to be used for all milling, but the custom was not being adhered to.


1824 This was challenged in Chancery in Richardson v. Walker ; Richardson v. Capes, with the verdict being given to the Defendants.

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But seeing William Massey having some association with George Hood Wren Lane, grain / malt and the Richardson surname, I'm going to try and find out more info.

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This William Massey and family originated from Spalding, where I believe it was, that my Grandma Hood went to look in the church.

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I notice in the London Gazette of 1831 that William Procter, William Massey and Jonathan Hutchinson had also been General Merchants.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PQNKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA1313&lpg=PA1313&dq=%22William+Massey%22+Selby&source=bl&ots=3_arenTAjU&sig=nOd5XuPoWqHo96jVPYnBBG9xfyE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8-d75-Y_UAhUlDcAKHZcEBGYQ6AEIMjAH

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #433 on: Sunday 28 May 17 09:31 BST (UK) »
I read in one of your posts of very recent, extract ~  Brewery and joinery shop, Wren lane but either you have edited it out ? or I can't find it.

I remember thinking its the first time I've seen both trades together mentioned for George
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« Reply #434 on: Sunday 28 May 17 10:05 BST (UK) »
This page #432, 1st paragrah (below quote), "Brewhouse and Carpenters shop"

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« Reply #435 on: Sunday 28 May 17 10:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mark. (can't see Wood from the  Carpenters shop for Trees or was it  the booze from the Brew house I supped  last night  ;D ;D ;D)

R Gibson coopers yard/shop - I wonder if the Brew house was in the same yard 1807-1812 or next door Wren lane,-

John Hood Publican (Brew ) Ship inn Gateshead- R Gibson cooper (Wood) dad Thomas of Newcastle/Tyne

George Hood Cooper/Brewer Selby br 1785-1787

John Hood (vocation unknown) father of George Hood b 1786 Gateshead

Were missing something obvious.
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« Reply #436 on: Sunday 28 May 17 11:30 BST (UK) »
1836 Memorial.
Petre & Others to Hood

The "Carpenters shop and ground in front thereof Brewhouse outbuildings and yard adjoining" seem to be in the location description, for the two dwelling houses in Wren Lane.

Above was not worded very well, because the Carpenters Shop was included in the 1835 Sale Lot number.

Underneath, in the 1836 Memorial it confirms Richard Gibson and Thomas Holliday were former Occupiers, but now of George Hood. Also reference to the last Survey [possibly Manor Survey].


This Memorial still does not link a Hood family relationship to Gibson, but only what we already know, that George Hood it seems took over the former business of Richard Gibson, who along with other suspects might be related.

Prior to the 1835 Auction Sale, George Hood, his Undertenants and John Green were occupiers (per Memorial).

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1833 Memorial
Clarkson to Hood

When George Hood purchased John Clarkson's Wren Lane, Dwelling house it says that George Hood was occupying Lord Petre's property adjoining.

In this property transfer John Clarkson of New Port, Parish of Eastrington Farmer, George Hood of Selby Private Brewer and Henry Mitton of Snaith Gentleman, signed the Release.

The late Henry Mitton of Snaith, had died 1803 and according to a notice in 14 & 21 May 1803 was a Maltster.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #437 on: Monday 29 May 17 00:37 BST (UK) »

All six Hood Quaker burials for George and Sarah Hood and their four adult unmarried children state "Not in Membership" or "Not a Member". George Hood's age is given as 60 years.


Been thinking, if George Hood came from a nonconformist or dissenting family, then his siblings (if any) and his parents may also have been NC.

Perhaps the clue may be other Hoods lying in nonconformist cemeteries, like Bunhill Fields Cemetery and any others, open at the time, taking NC.


The Hood of Laurence Pountney Hill found before, was from Bardon Park, Leicestershire (they had a residence at Laurence Pountney Hill).

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My 2 X Gt Grandfather George Hood, Leicester area (born Selby 1847) had his first three children baptised at Selby Abbey Church and he would likely have known the reason for George Hood AND his Grandmother Sarah Hood (d.1879) being buried in the Selby Quaker Burial Ground.

My Father is fairly adamant we were Scottish and I just wonder, if the reason was known by my 2 x Gt. G., for the burial in the Quaker burial ground, that George was perhaps Presbyterian or Protestant, (Church of Scotland).

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #438 on: Monday 29 May 17 01:03 BST (UK) »
Just thought I would check your theory ~ there are lots of NC 'Hood' burials ~ and that's just in London. Look at this one, at Whitefields Memorial Church.

Little boy buried 30 Dec 1832 aged 4.

Have to add it is transcribed as Cock as opposed to COOK - which I immediately thought it looked like
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« Reply #439 on: Monday 29 May 17 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Thank you Claire.

More Questions than Answers, we Cannot Answer

a) If George Hood was Nonconformist, he has had all his children from 1816 to 1835 baptised at Selby Abbey Church, or did Mother Sarah Hood (nee Russell, baptised Selby Church), influence the baptism decisions.

b) If my George & Sarah Hood and family, were changing to the Quaker faith, then at Sarah Hood's 1879 burial in the Quaker Burial Ground (and despite her first Son William and Daughter-in-Law Jane Hood nee Casson, being Quakers), Sarah Hood is still not a Quaker Member at burial in 1879, as it states such on the Burial Note.

So George and Sarah Hood it seems, were not converting to the Quakers.

c) Were the Quakers using George Hood and George Hood using the Quakers, to further their own business contacts and businesses.

According to my 1836 George Hood Memorial Property Registration copy, the Lord of the Manor, his Trustees and Solicitors (sellers) AND Quakers Members names are linked to the Release allowing the Sale from the Lord and his Trustees to George Hood.

In 1838 George Hood has acquired a shed load property which George Hood and later William Hood are holding in Trust for James Collinson. When James Collinson of Selby dies, Mrs Collinson has become a Quaker, with William Hood still Trustee (the other Trustee being removed) according to the Will and it is my belief that George Hood has provided the Mortgage money for the property aquisition.

d) HSBC Archives (looking from a Bank perspective I believe) told me George Hood of Selby, Brewer was an ancestor to be proud of, with a good credit rating, but had no other surviving record.

Seems George Hood has good Accounting and Business acumen.


York City and County Banking Company

Managed to get a long list of owners names in 1845, no Hoods, but the following may be of interest:-

John Cook, Scarbro', Solicitor. (Nothing on this chap yet?)
Richard Pearson, Melmerby, Farmer. (Nothing at all on this chap yet?)
Mary Pearson, Middlethorp Lodge, Spinster.

Pearson of Middlethorp Lodge

Middlethorp Lodge 1841 (transcribed online)
James Meek, 50, Ind. Born in County.
Ann Meek, 55, born in County.
William Barker, 15, M.S. Born in County.
Hannah Robinson, 25, F.S. Born in County.
Jane Revie, 20, F.S. Born in County

25 March 1813, Tadcaster, Yorkshire, James Meek and Ann Pearson.

1851
James Meek, Head, Mar., 61, Lord Mayor of York, Glass Manufacturer, born Yorkshire Brampton.
Ann Meek, Wife, Mar., 68, born Yorkshire Bramham.
Mary Pearson, Visitor, U, 64, born Yorkshire Bramham.


Cook

Couldn't find much on John Cook of Scarborough, Solicitor.


Hood

York Union Bank

List of Owners
Wells Hood, York, Wine Merchant.


Early Selby Churches and Chapels (Mountain 1800)

Selby Abbey Church
Presbyterian Chapel, Millgate, rebuilt about the year 1690.
Quaker Meeting House, Gowthorp, errected about the year 1784.
Methodist Meeting House in Millgate, errected about the year 1785.

About 1780s
Catholics Meeting in the Steward's House of the Manor of Selby.


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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #440 on: Monday 29 May 17 11:40 BST (UK) »

MARRIAGE by licence

Huggate 1st January 1839

John Cook bachelor 28 a Solicitor of Scarborough: Father: William Cook - farmer

Mary Cook spinster 25 of Huggate: Father: Francis Cook - farmer

Both signed register
Witnesses: Francis Cook, William Cook Jnr. and John Dandy ?
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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