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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #360 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 11:47 BST (UK) »
Not necessarily so: as George or his parents could have put the money up but just need another male name of good standing or trader to act as bondsman. In some cases the bondsman was later  the best man at the wedding as part of his duties as best man protocol to the wedding licence.

My niece got married by an archbishop special wedding licence with a mountain of paperwork, neither of them were church goers, had lived in sin for 6 years before, my niece had with other chaps before that and the biggest load of twaddle  ;D of paper pushing I have ever known.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #361 on: Wednesday 03 May 17 00:05 BST (UK) »
Something I recall my Grandmother (Hood) saying as a young man was that a forename had been taken from previous Hood generations.

I have tried this with my father's names and I have tried it with my Grandfather's and his brother's forenames and her claim makes no sense at all.

However, if I go back to the boys names of my 2 X Gt. Grandfather George Hood (born Selby 1847, dying at 16 De Montfort Street, Leicester, in 1885) it will give in the following order:-

George (my 2 x Gt. G. Commercial Traveller & Leather Merchant & Victualler);
John (my 3 x Gt. G., the Tanner of Selby);
George (my 4 x Gt. G. married 1815 Selby); and his mystery father as
William or Herbert Hood?


I've set out all the known children of my 2 x Gt. Grandparents George Hood and Cecilia ...

Children of George Hood (d.1885 Leicester, Son of the Late John Hood of Selby, Tanner) and Cecilia Hood nee Westley

Edith Mary Hood, born 25 Sep 1875, Lorraine Villa, The Fields, Wigston, Blaby, Leicestershire, 
Baptised Selby Abbey 26 Dec 1875.

George Percy Hood, Abode Leicester,
Baptised Selby Abbey 17 Jun 1877.
George Percy Hood, buried Belgrave, Leicester, 14 Aug 1877, Abode Belgrave, Age 6 months.

John Sidney Hood, born 24 Aug 1878 at Melton Road, Belgrave.
Baptised Selby Abbey 15 September 1878, Abode Belgrave.
 
Family information is that John Sidney Hood went with Brother to South Africa and joined the South African Infantry. The Haute Avesnes British Cemetery (New), Report gives 2 Bn South African Inf. No. 4556 Cpl S. Hoods [later amended to Hood]. Family information refers to an action near Arras 12 April 1917, he was removed and died at a Field Hospital. CWGC gives death 14 Apr 1917, age 38, Son of the late George and Cecilia Hood of Leicester

Next of Kin, Miss Edith Hood, 143 Rockingham Road, Kettering, Northants.

Henry George Hood, born 13 Jul 1880 Carlton Hotel, 23 Granby Street, Leicester, Father George Hood, Licensed Victualler.
Henry George Hood, of 13 Meyrick Road, Stafford, England, died 31 Oct 1943. Widow was Jean Hood (according to family information after leaving South Africa Henry George Hood went to Australia and married Jean).

Grace Cecila Hood, born 26 Mar 1882, at 17 New Walk, Leicester.
Married George Taylor, Manager of Clothiers Shop, (Grace Cecilia Taylor).

William Herbert Hood, born 9 Feb 1884, at 17 New Walk, Leicester.
Married. Died 1942 in Leicestershire.


I am now wondering if the other forenames Percy; Sidney; Henry and one of the two others have come from Cecilia's (the mother's side) of the family.

Mark

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #362 on: Friday 05 May 17 10:28 BST (UK) »
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Will---Hood--William/859210.record?pt=S

Will of William Hood of Kingston upon Hull 1810 held at Lincoln archives


http://www.lincstothepast.com/advanced-search/


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.315

Jomot post #322 above link

George Hood 1704 Winterton

http://www.lincstothepast.com/Will---Hood--George/756183.record?pt=S

http://www.lincstothepast.com/Inventory---Hood--George--1-Jan-1704--------/672458.record?pt=T

Hello All

Thanks dobfarm.

This 1810 Will of William Hood of Kingston upon Hull you have found, was interestingly proved in the Lincoln Consistory Court.

The three I already have for William are Abstracts of the Wills of:-
William Hood of Heslington, proved 1807;
William Hood of Hull proved 1808 (York);
William Hood of Faceby 1811.

Seems the 1810 LCC William Hood of Hull, Will, you have found is probably a different Will according to the Proved date.

It is cheaper for me to order a Copy, than pay for research time according to their email reply (which has omitted to send me an Order form).

So emailed back, saying I'd like to order a copy.

Regards Mark

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #363 on: Sunday 07 May 17 18:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

Cockins of Luddington Lincs, have been touched on before by Jomot, but maybe worth a second look.

In trying to find something about the Thomas C in your post I came across this marriage by Licence.

Thomas Cockin (aged 24 and of Luddington, Lincs.) and Margrit CHESTER (18 a minor of Hatfield) married at Hatfield 17 Aug. 1796

Both signed
Witnesses: Mary Hutton, Thomas Chester and Robt. Cockin

Wonder if there is a family link with Chester Newby's mother Hannah Newby nee Chester ?

If the burial of Hannah I've found is the correct one in 1839, her entry in the Death Duty register reads Hannah NUBY of Carlton, Snaith Yorks. .... Wm Mitton, Stamford Lincoln.

William Mitton bn Snaith 1789 son of Henry & Mary Mitton nee Eadon.

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When Richard Gibson married Eleanor Wainwright in 1792 one of the witnesses was a RICHARD GOLTON a tailor ( son of a Richard Golton of Wistow).  Richard Golton (the witness) had a son Richard in 1779 who married an Elizabeth Perkin ( father Thomas Perkin of Berwick) c1803.

In 1812 Richard GOULTON bn 1779 was buried in Selby , a ELIZABETH GOLTON a widow married CHESTER NEWBY 1814

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On George Hood's 1815 Marriage Bond, it was signed by:-
George Hood and Chester Newby of Selby, a miller.


Earlier reply #160 from Goughy 26 October 2015
Chester Newby
Born in Whitley Bridge 1790 Parents Thomas and Hannah Newby (nee Chester)
Married Elizabeth Goulton 30 Jan 1814  (Chester of Snaith Parish - Elizabeth Selby Parish
Re-married 1841 in Rawcliffe, Goole to Mary Ann Pease - residence at time of marriage Barlow
1841 Census residence  Barlow
1851 Census visitor Barlow
Died 25 Sept 1859 Selby District
Probate Calendar describes him as Gentleman of Snaith

Goughy


END OF QUOTES


Hannah Newby, Death Certificate (alias Hannah Nuby in Probate Register)

Registration District SELBY
1839 Death in the Sub-district of Snaith in the County of York
Fourteenth of April 1839 At Carlton
HANNAH NEWBY
Female
Age 77
Widow of Thomas Newby Farmer
Age & Debility
Informant The Mark of X HANNAH PRECIOUS Carlton Present at the Death
Registered Seventeenth of April 1839
Thomas Perkins Registrar


Confirms Widow of Thomas Newby, Farmer, was Hannah Newby [nee Chester].

Regards Mark

Regarding William Mitton of Stamford, Lincs, Hannah Newby's Will just says that Mitton was Executor AND appointed as Trustee to sell Newby's property, collect in her money and divide it up as stated in Newby's Will.

Dated 4th March 1836.

Will of Mrs Hannah Nuby of Carlton in the County of York Widow.
Shearburn, Snaith
[Solicitor?]

Edmund Russell Commissioner [added at top of first page]

Will of Hannah Nuby of Carlton in the Parish of Snaith and County of York Widow and relict of Thomas Nuby late of the same place Yeoman deceased …
I give devise and bequeath unto William Mitton late of Selby in the County of York, but now of Stamford in the County of Lincoln Gentleman his heirs Executors administrators and assigns All my Freehold and Copyhold Lands Tenements hereditaments and real Estates situate at Carlton aforesaid and elsewhere; and also all my ready monies, Securities for money personal Estate and Effects of any nature or kind soever Upon the Trusts following … divide the residue of the said monies into Eight equal parts or shares, and pay one Eighth part or share thereof unto and equally amongst all the children of my deceased Daughter Jane Harrison that shall be living at the time of my decease ; one other Eight part thereof to my Son William; One other Eighth part thereof to my Son Chester; One other Eighth part thereof to my Daughter Elizabeth; One other Eighth part thereof to my Daughter Esther; one other Eighth part thereof to my Daughter Hannah; one other Eighth part thereof to my Daughter Mary, and the remaining Eighth part thereof unto my Daughter Ann to whom I respectively give and bequeath the same; …
and I constitute and appoint the said William Mitton Executor Sole Executor of this my last Will and Testament; …
The mark and seal of Hannah Nuby
Witnesses
John Gardiner
Thomas Himsworth
Thomas Whitaker



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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #364 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 12:35 BST (UK) »
Hello

On page 9 of this thread, there are two images from the 1839 Selby Rate book. Relevant image below.

One of the 1839 images indicates that George Hood was one of the occupiers of part of the Anchor Inn, Church Hill, Selby, premises, owned by the Batman's [Bateman's?] Executors in 1839.

There is some information here (p.35 on another thread, from link below) how the Bateman's fit in to the Wilkinson's and Hood's and Dobsons ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.306

Anchor Inn, Selby

1822 Baines Directory
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby22Dry.html
Anchor, Ann Bateman, Church Hill


Been searching in the newspapers "Anchor Inn" and found:-

1) 3 July 1828 Leeds Intelligencer an Edward Wilkinson, aged 78 of the Anchor Inn, Selby, has died.

Is this Edward Wilkinson, also linked to the same John and Mary Wilkinson who also have the Mary Ellen Hood born Selby links in the Census to Mary Ann Bateman (married Thomas Duckworth Dobson), which could explain George Hood's link as an occupier to part of the Anchor Inn premises?

Or

2) However, three years before 1839, in 1836, there was a Mr Fowler, Anchor Inn, Church Hill near Selby, when it was offered to Let.

Mr Fowler may have been a Tenant himself, simply sub-letting the Anchor Inn, or does Mr Fowler also have links please, to either the:-
a) Bateman's or
b) does Fowler also have a link to Hood?

Thanks Mark

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« Reply #365 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 14:46 BST (UK) »
Two Edward Wilkinson births c1750

Edward W son of William bapt. 1750 Kellington

Edward W son of James (NC baptism) in Cleckheaton ( born Birstall 1752.

Edward Wilkinson aged 29 married Margaret Twist 1781 Selby by licence.

One of the baptisms of the Bateman children list 'Edward Wilkinson, Innkeeper' as father of Mary Bateman nee Wilkinson.

So seems likely given ages and occupation from the records found that Edward W that died in 1828 is the man above.

Quick look at Fowler - can see a birth in Caistor, Lincs of a Bateman Fowler in 1896 - a possible link ?
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #366 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 16:26 BST (UK) »
Two Edward Wilkinson births c1750

Edward W son of William bapt. 1750 Kellington

Edward W son of James (NC baptism) in Cleckheaton ( born Birstall 1752.

Edward Wilkinson aged 29 married Margaret Twist 1781 Selby by licence.

One of the baptisms of the Bateman children list 'Edward Wilkinson, Innkeeper' as father of Mary Bateman nee Wilkinson.

So seems likely given ages and occupation from the records found that Edward W that died in 1828 is the man above.

Quick look at Fowler - can see a birth in Caistor, Lincs of a Bateman Fowler in 1896 - a possible link ?

Thanks Claire

Regarding the Anchor Inn, Church Hill, Selby, there was a Bateman-Wilkinson family link, from your comment ...
One of the baptisms of the Bateman children list 'Edward Wilkinson, Innkeeper' as father of Mary Bateman nee Wilkinson.

More confirmation it seems of a Bateman - Wilkinson link and we know George Hood's Son James Hood and wife Sarah Hood (nee Arundel) and Mary Ellen Hood (born Selby) were linked, to Wilkinson and Mary Ann Bateman.
Mainly Reply #311.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.311


Probably doesn't help with George Hood.

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Kellington is closer to Knottingley and Whitley, than Selby.

Samuel Hirst diaries (of Kellington, born Cridling Stubbs) mention a George Hood.

George Hood in the Knottingley Land Tax of 1813, occupying a property of George Wilkinson.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758380.0

Chester Newby 1815 Hood=Russell, Marriage Bondsman, born Whitley / Kellington.

I was also just wondering if George Hood, Knottingley, (if the same George as George Hood of Selby), his Son James & Sarah Hood (nee Arundel) might be linked twice (separately) to the Wilkinsons?

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The transcribed Register of Manfield, Yorkshire, has a Ralph Hood & Elizabeth Fowler 29 November 1761, but the transcription has the signature Ralph Wood, so it is unclear if the marriage is Hood or Wood.
https://archive.org/stream/parishregisterof00manf

Regards Mark

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« Reply #367 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:15 BST (UK) »

The Dades registers for Edward Wilkinsons children also confirm his father as William (Innholder of Selby) and by Jane his wife.

I'm checking again for any birth of Edward in Selby - I can't see one.

The baptism in Kellington 1750 list parent abode as Whitley.
He also has a brother born 1748 called William

I cannot see a marriage for William & Jane - there are some but not sure of the geography to be honest

Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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« Reply #368 on: Tuesday 09 May 17 17:24 BST (UK) »
The image of the marriage is online and Ralph signed his own name - it is certainly HOOD by my reckoning.

Can't add the image as yet, but will do so later unless someone else see's this post.

Marriage by licence was witnessed by what looks like church officials.

EDIT: Looks like Ralph H's first wife died - in Feb. 1764 he was getting married again to a Mary Bussey - again by licence and with consent of parents.

Followed by two children - John bn March 1765 and Mary bapt. March 1766
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk