George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W

[..claire..]

WOW !!!

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

Fairbairn's Crests is the only one I can find, fortunately it is searchable & Control F searchable in PDF.

Volume 1 with Descriptions and part of the Plates Index
https://ia601407.us.archive.org/34/items/fairbairnsbookof01fair/fairbairnsbookof01fair.pdf

Volume 2 with other part of Plates Index and Plates of the Crests
https://archive.org/stream/FairbairnsBookOfCrestsV2#page/n29/mode/2up/search/Coe

In the Index the first number denotes the Plate and second number relates to the Crest.

There seems to be some suggestion on websites of the Official Arms Offices that they hold further separate Index Books, whether James Fairbairn included these I don't know.


Gibson

Thought this was interesting that some Gibsons have a 'rising stork' in their crest. But the only one with anything between the feet, seemed to be two acorns (not viewed any yet).

Gibson a Stork rising, some descriptions in Vol.1 with the Latin word Cœlestes, in their Latin motto. Fortunately I have a large Latin reference dictionary, so will look the word up.


Coe / Coo

Vol. 1 Crest Descriptions and Partial Index
Plate 166, 14

Vol. 2 for Index and Plates (Vol. 1 for Crest Descriptions and part of Index)

Plate 111,  5
Plate   68,  1
Plate   61, 10 (incl Coo) featuring the Anchor (attached)
Plate   42,  5


Regarding the Coo crest, there is a similar looking bird at Plate 111, 9.


Cook (Coo an Abbreviation perhaps?)


I shall go through plate by plate later and see if I can find anything, or even a Crest with a similar instrument between the feet and see what the description calls it.

Regards Mark

See Reply #188.
P.21, of this thread for a new outline drawing.

[Goughy]

Had a bit of a play.   I've highlighted/circled a couple of things - the letter R and what looks like a number 1115 (or does it say His)   To me the lettering still looks like "George".  I can't see "Coo"   However, just a thought, I assume the seal was George's business seal and he was a COOPER.  Just a thought

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

Thanks Goughy.

Because of things spoken about by my Grandmother Hood when I was a boy of about 5 or 6 years of age which I thought were just wild stories (you perhaps know how some people like to romance), I have asked the Lyon Court of Scotland and the College of Arms London to see if they can identify the Seal.

This thought has crossed my mind about a Company Seal. In George Hood's Will he confirms it is his Seal.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

I've done a fair bit of research into the personal seals people had stamped on their Wills in regard to the family I'm currently researching from Yorkshire. All are different and I've read that most are 'personal' to the holder themselves.

I've checked out some Hood seals from Anc* Yorks Probate records and all are different, but very fascinating.

I did find an early medieval crest of a bird which I thought was pretty similar to yours, it was from a Leigham family. But it's the only one I could find that looked anything like.

Claire

[BushInn1746]

I've done a fair bit of research into the personal seals people had stamped on their Wills in regard to the family I'm currently researching from Yorkshire. All are different and I've read that most are 'personal' to the holder themselves.

Thanks Claire

If a Seal was never registered, or formally recorded with Arms, or the same Seal has not been found in another document, it will not be traceable.

I've wondered if Craftsmans books who made embossing tools survive, like Assay books, but assume many Seal tools would be locally made.

You are quite right, many are Personal Non Armorial Seals, I'm not holding out too much hope.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

At least it is a different avenue for people to look at, and hope it is something family related in some way.

Being a business man, Cooper and Brewer etc. I would have thought possibly a 'tool of his trade' perhaps on his seal, this ( animal/bird) seems something you would see on a family crest.

Let's hope...

[BushInn1746]

I've had a couple of replies about the painting of Burns in the Will (mentioned previously), one was titled as the Missing Painting of Burns.

This word missing was dropped in their second email and currently the University cannot offer any information about it.

One Burns painting has been at an Auction House in the last few years.

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/long-lost-robert-burns-portrait-on-market-for-2m-1-3009744
This one was claimed to have been owned by Sir James Shaw, the Lord Mayor of London from 1805, according to the newspaper.

Regards Mark

[BushInn1746]

"Seals were used by members of an armigerous family to seal documents such as charters. The seal would contain the coat of arms and the owners name and are useful for medieval identification of a person.

Arms are inherited through the male line and the heir or heirs to the arms must prove direct decent from the armiger. In Scotland, all arms must be matriculated (registered) with the Court of the Lord Lyon and differentiated from those of the original armiger, except where they pass to the eldest heir. The head of the family is entitled to wear the arms undifferenced but sons known as cadets must difference his arms to show his position in his generation. The eldest son charges his arms with a temporary mark of cadency known as a label of three points. Other sons charge their arms through the use of bordures. This ensures that no two living men share the same arms." [sic]

It seems that if it is not passed to the eldest male heir, the Arms are altered.

I have no idea what type of Seal this is, it does contain the name of Coo, but on the other hand it does not look like a usual full Coat of Arms, hopefully I shall receive both replies in due course no doubt.

Regards Mark

I have just looked at the 200 year old, Dickinson - Cockin Deed for Staddlethorpe and Clementhorpe. Barnard Dickinson; Joseph Dickinson; George Cockin and John Peirson have all used the same unnamed Seal.

I don't know yet, if I'm onto something, or nothing, about George Hood's origin.