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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #162 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 11:29 GMT (UK) »
That's a good spot, dobfarm. I'm trying to alter the pic on my photosuite, it's very interesting though.
It definitely says ?ook - or would make more sense 'HOOD'.

Definitely a shape to it too - you can see the top is this sort of outline /\_/\_/\ - and a pattern or something in the middle. All very interesting. Let's hope they can give you a higher resolution of it.
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« Reply #163 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if this helps.  Obviously a higher quality image as a starting point would be much better and limit on here is only 500k.  Mark,  try emailing me (via personal email) another image with a higher resolution .   
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #164 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Trying all sorts to get a clearer picture, altered the colour to try and make detail stand out
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #165 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 13:41 GMT (UK) »
 The what looks like a G or 6 but if you draw a straight line above & below  the 'OO' you get 'OOD'

  ----oo6----

------centre line----- ----oo6----

On the first G or C close in look shows a definite straight vertical line  within the two horizontal parameters of the OO = ------ I ? OOD ----- centre line---

?OOD
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #166 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello All

Thank you.

There was a Cood family and their divorce ended up in Court.

Got a strange vague feeling (from my old Deeds) that H.S. might be a 19th Century Legal Stationers and this might be a reference to order the correct replacement tool.

However, it could be L. S. (which is corrupted by an imperfection), such as the tool being dropped onto a pointed item or accidentally rattling against others or drawing tools when travelling by coach or cart.

Looks like Coo followed by a character symbol.

Looks more like a Horseshoe, when I tilt the screen back and forth. I'll change it to a negative after dinner.

Been to the Library and Boutells Heraldry book indicates horseshoes were used in Heraldry, although "the toes upwards unless blazoned as reversed. They are sometimes termed ferrs."

descrption of ferrs ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OzGF29hFLmMC&pg=PA201&lpg=PA201&dq=Heraldry+%22ferrs%22&source=bl&ots=DPq1oyjBkB&sig=GqE1eq42H_2a-oXFlsn4rJNmAuc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitqbWou6HSAhVnIsAKHXjiCdMQ6AEIJzAF


Official and Corporate Heraldry, could denote:-
Ecclesiastical Heraldry,
Universities and Colleges,
Public Schools,
the College of Arms and Lyon Office,
Public Institutions,
Civic Heraldry;
Merchant Companies;
Guilds.

Before you ask, I have had a reply some time ago from the Worshipful Company of Coopers, who said they only had London Coopers listed.

Seem to vaguely recall picking several of these embossing tools out of my Grandmothers drawer when I was about 6 to 8 years old and asked about a number on one and I vaguely seem to think, she said it was to order a replacement one, to ensure it was correct design.

I don't really know yet what this is and the above research is very brief and general.

Kind regards Mark

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #167 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Currently I see a 'love heart' (L.O.L.).

Turn it 90 degrees left and there is probably a head and bust of a person?

The problem is, that the raised area detail has flattened to some extent, before the wax went hard.

I emailed early am and remain very hopeful of getting a higher resolution photo of this Seal.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #168 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Been looking for anything on 'Wax Document Seals'

Noticed a reference to horseshoe or pincers.


Or the first three letters of Cook, with a symbol of a horseshoe.


The fourth character looks to be symbolic, possibly representing pincers.


The Arms of Hood and a Crest apparently, are represented on the last three images.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #169 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Did he leave a seal on any of his other documents ? ~ obviously if there are earlier documents ~ the seals may,  if they have survived,  look better because they would be 'newer' to George himself.

If you know what I mean ::)

EDIT: I could sort of see the 'love heart' too. I don't think it is either of the top two seals, let's hope you can get a better pic of it.

Going back to the love heart ~ I almost thought I could see an arrow through it ~ which may lean towards it being the bird with the arrow or whatever it is :P

Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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« Reply #170 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Been thinking that somewhere there must be old Company Registers for people to register a Seal.

Regards Mark