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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #136 on: Saturday 18 February 17 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Cheers dobfarm  :) :)

Yes, this John lived to a grand age - is that his death registration in 1866 birthyear 1770?

This John was the father of George and Aley.

He was also the brother of the William born 1774.

Trouble is there is no HOOD baptism for him. I think it's possible that he maybe the John HIRD bapt. August 1771 father John.

Looking at the possibility that the minister was possibly hard of hearing, I found other records which may be interesting : An earlier burial of a Richard Hird in 1763 an infant in the Scalby registers and two baptisms: a Richard HIRD to a father Thomas in 1768 and possibly the same Richard HURD aged 24,that married in 1794 Scarborough to a Elizabeth Williford. His residence at marriage Stamford Bridge.

The other Richard HIRD baptised 8 Aug 1779 son of a John and Mary in the Cloughton registers. What is interesting is the marriage on 19 November 1769 of John and Mary Hird ( nee Pickering) in the Scalby register -minister writes Hird, John signs his name as HOAD.
There is no marriage of a Richard HIRD/HOAD in the general area but there is a Scalby marriage in 1810 of a Richard HOOD to a Mary Sedman.

Also a George HIRD baptism 23 Oct. 1785 to a George and
Jane Hird in Scalby. He married 1808 as George Hurd.

The parents: George (Hird in register) married Jane Harrison 1777 and signed as HORD.

....probably just clutching at straws but worth looking at variants in these registers  :-\

Mark ~ thought this might interest you ~ lot of surnames been touched on before

http://pennyghael.org.uk/Richardson2.pdf
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #137 on: Saturday 18 February 17 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank You

Mr Jno Turner & Chapel?

Mr John Turner was the Landlord of Mr Hood, until replaced in 1790 by Mr John Spencer who continued to rent the same house to "Jno Hood" in 1790.

Likely, the same Mr Jno Turner occupying the Chapel Lands Adjoining Cow Lane. Selby L/Tax in 1789, also mysteriously disappeared around 1789/1790, (the same time as Mr Hood's Landlord).

Further enquiries ongoing.

Thank you, Mark

EDIT: Jno Turner was simply occupying property / land owned by the Chapel. Another property at Selby in 1800 was owned by York Minster.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #138 on: Saturday 18 February 17 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Just noticed a John Turner was buried in the Churchyard at Selby 11 January 1792 and he was described as a Bailiff, Died of Decay of Nature aged 89.

If he was in decline, I suppose he may disappear in the records a couple of years earlier.

I will try and find out, who he was Bailiff for.

Regards Mark


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« Reply #139 on: Saturday 18 February 17 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that was the only one I thought was worth a mention ~ there were five J Turner burials between 1792 -1811,

29 Dec 1796 ~ John son of William T buried
23 May 1802 ~ John Turner buried, innkeeper
06 Jul 1806 ~ J Turner aged 2 son of Charles
30 Dec 1811 ~ J Turner aged 69 Gentleman

There was a marriage of a John Turner Clerk aged 36 in 1807 to a Martha Maria Thompson

Looking at a book published 1800 called The History of Selby, ancient and modern.

Page 116: the places of Public Worship in the town besides the church

Presbyterian Chapel on Millgate, rebuilt c1690
Quakers Chapel on Goulthorpe, now Gowthorp, erected about the year 1784
The Methodist Meeting House on Millgate erected about the year 1785
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #140 on: Sunday 19 February 17 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Claire

Edit: Jno Turner was simply occupying property / land owned by the Chapel. Another property at Selby in 1800 was owned by York Minster.

My 3 X Gt. Grandfather John Hood of Selby, in 1842 (found under Belby).

Mark




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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #141 on: Sunday 19 February 17 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Thanks for these other Turners.


Draft release from the trusts of the will of John Thompson, late of Selby, esquire
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/15a0158b-5bd6-4861-84b2-b533493190af

1) James Moate of Snaith, draper and grocer, Mary his wife, Rev Richard Tompson of Selby, clerk; Margaret Thompson of Selby, spinster; Edward Parker of Selby, gentleman 2) Martha Maria Turner of Selby, widow of Rev John Turner deceased and formerly widow of the said John Thompson, deceased; Charles Weddall of Selby, esquire; William Procter of Selby, merchant; William Todd of Humbleton, gentleman
1827


See also Durham University
http://reed.dur.ac.uk/xtf/view?docId=ark/32150_s13n203z148.xml

COCKERTON
SDD-21.   4 February 1828
6 closes in one entire plot at the west end of the village: Boggyfield, Longfield, Roundhill, Little Roundhill, Saltpetre and Intack.
Tithes of corn, grain and hay on the above.
Declaration of Trusts in respect of monies arising from the sale of the above premises by Thomas Bowes of Darlington, gent., and Robert Moses Dinsdale on behalf of Martha Maria Turner of Selby, Yorks., widow of Revd. John Turner, formerly widow of John Thompson, and only surviving child of William Turner of Darlington, surgeon.
Parchment   1 m.


COCKERTON & KNOTTINGLEY
SDD-22.   10 February 1829
Copyhold lands in Cockerton.
The Rail Closes in Knottingly.
Award by Thomas Bowes of Darlington, gent., arbitrating in disputes between Martha Maria Turner, widow of the Revd. John Turner of Selby clerk, formerly widow of John Thompson of Selby Esq., Richard Thompson, James Moate and his wife Mary, and Margaret Thompson, claimants under the wills of the said John Thompson and his eldest son Thomas William Thompson.
Parchment   5mm.


Other Related Deeds, with relationships - Archive not known
Ref: D/HH 2/8/465
20 December 1827
(1) Martha Maria Turner of Selby, Yorks., widow; Charles Weddall of Selby, Esquire; William Procter of Selby, merchant; William Todd of Hambleton, Yorks., gentleman (the devisees and executors of John Thompson late of Selby, first husband of Martha Maria Turner)
(2) James Moate of Snaith, draper and grocer and Mary, his wife (daughter, devisee and a residuary legatee of John Thompson)
(3) Edward Parker of Selby, gentleman and John Samler of Snaith, woolstapler (trustees of a settlement of 3 - 4 May 1820)
(4) Margaret Thompson of Selby, spinster (the other daughter of John Thompson)
(5) Reverend Richard Thompson of Selby, Clerk (only surviving son of John Thompson)
(6) Robert Moses Dinsdale of Newsham, Esquire
(7) Edward Parker and Thomas Bowes, of Darlington, gentlemen
Copy appointment by Mary Moate and release by (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) to (6) of a fourth part of the Manor of Knottingley and of several parcels of land in the various fields at Knottingley in the parish of Pontefract, as specified (71a. Or. 21p.) to the use of (7) upon trust for sale. Recites previous deeds
(1 file)


Ref: D/HH 2/8/468
2 September 1828
(1) M.M. Turner, James Moate and Mary, his wife; and Margaret Thompson, late of Selby and now of Darlington
(2) Revd. Richard Thompson
(3) Edward Parker and Thomas Bowes
(4) James Moate and Mary, his wife
(5) Thomas Bowes
Copy draft release by (1) to (5) of 10a. 1r. 3p. of land (Far Rail Close and Near Rail Close) at Knottingley, Yorks., upon trust for Mary Moate, with power of appointment and upon trust for her issue as specified in default of such appointment. Recites previous deeds
Consideration: £920 by (4) to (3)
(1 file)



An 1839 Selby Rate Book also shows George Hood is renting premises from the Procters who were Quakers.


John Todd I think discussed before, re him being a Tanner in the 18th Century, if I remember correctly and my John Hood, also being a Tanner at Selby.


A John Turner too, who is Landlord, either owner, or responsible for letting a Selby property to a John Hood up to 1789.


Can't make my mind up if two religious John Turners, one a dissenter and one a Curate at Selby Church, who appears in Selby Church records from the early 19th Century.


Links with Knottingley too.


I'll check today, if these two Thompson Wills are on Ancestry.

Regards Mark


2nd EDIT: also the PROCTERS OF SELBY are apparently linked to the DICKINSONS.

Ann Dickinson was described in an 1875 Affirmation as the Niece of William Procter late of Selby, Merchant and that Herbert Camm Dickinson was her only Son.

That Herbert Camm Dickinson is the person referred to as "Herbert Dickinson" in the Will of Elizabeth Procter late of Selby.


One of the Petitioners in the PROCTER of Selby Chancery case is George Esthill Peacock and a Peacock estate is mentioned in the Jane Hood (nee Casson) of Selby and Brayton, Will, d.1894

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #142 on: Sunday 19 February 17 12:07 GMT (UK) »
Quaker Registers RG 6/1253 from Anc.

1709 Marg't first daughter of Jno & Marg't Hood Mariner of Sunderland was born

[John Hood, mariner of Sunderland] in RG 6/1253, see image ...

Marked up as RG 6/1253 Newcastle [upon Tyne]: Sunderland here ...  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22RG+6%2F1253%22

Many children of Quakers became Quakers.

Although he might not be from a Mariner family, George Hood possible Grandchild, somewhere?

Regards Mark

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« Reply #143 on: Sunday 19 February 17 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Afternoon All,

Another early Quaker record from F M P: A Thomas HOOD clothier of Glosborn in Kildwick married a Hannah Yewdall of Calverley 22 Feb 1715 at the monthly meeting of Brighouse, Bradford.

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John Turner can be found here : CofE database ~ lots of J Turners ~ look for the one with dates 1798-1818

http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp

Curate of Selby 1808-1818
Curate of Brayton with Barlow 1798-1804
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk