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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #450 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 10:59 BST (UK) »
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I am checking other Denominations but  Selby Wesleyan - online 1815- 1837

Will edit post as I find anything

Selby ( Presbyterian prior to 1807)   1797 - 1836

Selby, New Lane Bethesda ( Independent) 1811-1837

Selby Catholic - 1822 - 1840
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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #452 on: Thursday 01 June 17 09:55 BST (UK) »
Reply from Quaker Archives

There are many reasons why someone not in membership might come to be buried in a Quaker burial ground (employment by Friends, adult school attendance, a local ‘character’, a falling out with or non-payment of dues to the local clergyman, historical family connections with Friends, or conversion to Quakerism by one of his children, perhaps). You should certainly try and look at the local (preparative) meeting (PM) minutes, or those of the elders and overseers. For Selby PM, minutes exist from 1698-18715, of the Women’s PM, 1836-1876, and burial notes from 1836-1877. These may contain a reference to your relative, not just about the burial but maybe previous to his death why he was associated with Friends.

Should this fail to reveal more, you might try the records of York Monthly Meeting (one level up, as it were) to which Selby Preparative Meeting belonged.

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Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, was described by George Hood in his Will (Proved 1846) as "my Friend" and the "sole Arbitrator or Umpire". George was also occupying property of William Procter. Both Hutchinson and Procter at Selby were Quakers.

Son, William Hood, Brewer, married Jane Casson (born Thorne), 23 December 1851 and her father Curtis Casson was a Miller. William & Jane Hood (Jane Casson Hood) were recorded as Quakers at death.

Son, James Hood married Sarah Arundel and they were Quakers at death.

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Incidentally Widow of George, Sarah Hood, did not become a Quaker.

Mark

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Thank you Claire and dobfarm for replies, we shall have to come up North again, to Yorkshire.

EDIT: Been back in touch with the Quaker Library and they have suggested it was uncommon for Quakers to bury Nonconformists. Seems no memorial, perhaps only a marker with very brief information was allowed in these cases.

Jonathan Hutchinson, Quaker of Selby and William Massey buried by the Quakers at Selby in 1843 are both mentioned in George Hood's property Deed Memorials. The link to William Procter another Quaker (with links to Dickinson) is in the 1839 Selby Rate Book, showing George Hood occupying Wm Procter's premises.

In the Sheffield Iris, 18 February 1840
On the 31st ult., at Selby, Thomas Procter, Esq. of that place, at the venerable age of 85. Mr. Procter was during the whole of his protracted life a worthy member of the Society of Friends in Selby.

Jonathan Hutchinson's name is on George's Burial Note, suggesting Hutchinson may have officiated.

George Hood becoming one of the Overseers of the Poor for a year in April 1838, would have thrust him into the limelight. Incidentally, the others elected that year were:- George Richardson; Joseph Twist and Wm Staniland.

I get the impression that the Quakers may have helped my ancestor and probably some business reciprocating from both sides went on. I expect George had some skill in demand and got along well with them.

Regards Mark

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #453 on: Thursday 01 June 17 12:14 BST (UK) »
Selby birth ?

Have you checked or had checked by the London Quaker archives or Leeds Uni for Selby or near meeting house records for a George Hood birth notes ( not a register ) 1780-1790 at a meeting.

Think I've said it before but ? George could had been a Quaker as a single man, then gave it up on paper officially to marry Sarah Russel C o E hence baptizing his kids C of E ---but kept his links unofficially to his Quaker friends-It would answer the strange events in George's later years over religion having half his family including his C o E wife (?) buried in a Quaker burial ground that would have raised eye brows at the Abbey........Serious stuff them days in a (peculiar status run as stated on his marriage bond 1815) parish run admin.

or 50/50 either

Gateshead Bapt

George Hood bapt 1786 father John possibly a publican with maybe links to training George in the Brewing trade himself (John Hood) including the making, repairing and preparing barrel insides for taste of a brew of beer or spirits, which we know George was in the business of 1812
 
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #454 on: Thursday 01 June 17 23:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks dobfarm

We shall have a look, at the paper records of the Selby and York Quaker Meetings going backward until we find something, to circa 1780 if necessary.

We'll also look out for any references to the mystery Jane Hood reputed to be the "Wife" of John Hood, Mariner. I wondered if they were an irregular marriage.

Historically, sleeping with a lady in Scotland 'marriage by cohabitation with habit and repute' (irregular marriage) seems to mean you were an item! John Hood sailing back and forth to Inverness 1782, gets in the local pub there, a few drinks, tells Jane how nearly all his children died at Scarborough and how he moved to Selby, stays over with her on each trip and brings her back as wife.

Didn't the old Mariner tale say - he had a lady in another Port.

Yes, all 8 of George Hood's known children were baptised and the non-Quaker ones could have been buried in a Church Yard, before it closed.

There is something really odd, about these Hoods of Selby, nothing seems to be logical!


Claire, there were two Jonathan Hutchinson's at Selby, Snr and Junr.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #455 on: Thursday 01 June 17 23:36 BST (UK) »

Just been having a read of a Will of a man called John Frotheringham, mentioned in the Will of Quaker John Massey in 1778.

He was a non Quaker, married in an Anglican church ( by a Robert Hood - wouldn't you know) but buried by the Quakers. Mentions in the burial slip ~ not in membership.

Wealthy man too.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #456 on: Thursday 01 June 17 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thank you Claire, but I can hardly pronounce Frotheringham, I'd be interested in him too!

Thanks for looking at that John Massey from Spalding, Will.

On a trip to Spalding my Hood Grandma went off to see something in a local church. My Father must have got us out of Junior School, because I'm crouching down behind a bed of Red tulips, with my Red school cap on and one Red tulip looks slightly bigger in the photo - (my red cap).

John Massey of Spalding, should be the father of Wm Massey of Selby?

William Massey mentioned in a George Hood property Memorial.

Tells us more, please?

I'm about to fall asleep!

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #457 on: Friday 02 June 17 00:10 BST (UK) »

Like I say - wealthy. From what I can see married three times. I think he may have been born a Quaker ~~ there are records of the Frotheringham family in the Quaker records ~ married as a CofE ~ needs more time to look at him.

I do have the Will though
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #458 on: Friday 02 June 17 02:04 BST (UK) »
This John Fotheringham was born a Quaker in 1722.

Found two marriages in Anglican Churches ( London & Lincolnshire) - a widower on both.

Buried by the Quakers - but the record says "He was not a member"

We could be looking for a Quaker birth for GH too!


Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk