George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W

[..claire..]

I've looked at all the pics, and I totally get where you are coming from - can you not work your magic and figure out what the writing says at the top ? My photo imaging suite isn't getting a good enough picture of it 

[dobfarm]

Best wait till Mark gets a better higher resolution image of the seal and then use enhance programs. Those cracks in the image and the spacing of the thought word Coo are not equal spacing if that crack is closed in the double 00. Though say we call it "the stand back long view" of that poor image and Mark's rope & bird images do seem match.

That writing at the top is unreadable even after enhancement. 

It beggars belief how this seal will find George Hood parents or place of birth or baptism but one never knows
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Considering Mark's dad says their Hood's were Scottish origins and George's trade Cooper/ Brewer/Tanner/Grocer of booze (Wife & son).

I'm working on

Hull (Hessle) Griffin Breweries Cow lane -James Hood  1846 a Scot from Dumfries

https://www.sites.google.com/site/hesslelocalhistorysociety/hessle-s-history/hessle-in-1879

William Hood a cooper Hull dad Richard Hood d 1838


and a John Hood Ship Inn publican 1780 Gateshead ? and Geo Hood bapt 1786 Gateshead dad John Hood

Maybe the Gateshead George schooled and brought up in Yorkshire if John Hood publican (maybe born Scottland) moved pubs/inns to Yorkshire or moved to Gateshead from Yorkshire George born in Yorkshire but baptized in Gateshead (from or too Hull ?)

[..claire..]

I suppose if it is a genuine family crest and we get a name from it, we do have some questions. Why was GH using it ? Is it a name from his ancestors ? I do think it's worth looking into if only to rule it out. After all, George had to come from somewhere.

Well I'm looking into a Hood family too, seem fairly well off, in 1841 they are in Gateshead ~  James Hood 60 ~ independent, wife Isabella (nee Young) , daughter Mary (Ann) 20 and an Alexander Hood 60. None born in County.
I have deaths for Alexander ( born c1773 from age at burial) and Isabella ( and an administration record for her, giving the name of another son George Young Hood.

This couple baptise their children in Newcastle ( Non Conformist) and are living in Windmill Hills in Gateshead( Do you remember the other Hood family from there ? Robert Hood ~ children Jane, Jabez ,Benjamin).

I know residence is not conclusive PoB from marriage register but James Hood was 'from Morpeth' ~ I thought a possible connection to the George Hood we've mentioned before from there.

I just can't find a probable baptism for this Alexander or for James ~ except a few possibles in Scotland too.

claire

[dobfarm]

I suppose if it is a genuine family crest and we get a name from it, we do have some questions. Why was GH using it ? Is it a name from his ancestors ? I do think it's worth looking into if only to rule it out. After all, George had to come from somewhere.

Well I'm looking into a Hood family too, seem fairly well off, in 1841 they are in Gateshead ~  James Hood 60 ~ independent, wife Isabella (nee Young) , daughter Mary (Ann) 20 and an Alexander Hood 60. None born in County.
I have deaths for Alexander ( born c1773 from age at burial) and Isabella ( and an administration record for her, giving the name of another son George Young Hood.

This couple baptise their children in Newcastle ( Non Conformist) and are living in Windmill Hills in Gateshead( Do you remember the other Hood family from there ? Robert Hood ~ children Jane, Jabez ,Benjamin).

I know residence is not conclusive PoB from marriage register but James Hood was 'from Morpeth' ~ I thought a possible connection to the George Hood we've mentioned before from there.

I just can't find a probable baptism for this Alexander or for James ~ except a few possibles in Scotland too.

claire

 Have you a circa year of birth for Isabella thinking Isabella would be too young for a George b 1786 ish - ie;- George Young Hood born ?

[..claire..]

From the GRO death index Isabella YoB, c1779.

My train of thought is given her son is George Y Hood, maybe James her husband had a brother George, but both families are alluding me in terms of baptisms for any of them

From GRO index George Young Hood was born c1815, baptisms for James and Isabellas children are on FS

EDIT: I apologise ~wasn't very clear in saying who George Young Hood was.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DH47-49J?mode=g&i=100&cc=2353049

I've a few possible death registrations for JAMES Hood. Neither in Gateshead.

[dobfarm]

J Bunell ( or Burell) Proctor signed the Allegation Bond

[..claire..]

Possible parents for the above James and Alexander Hood

Alexander HOOD married Ellinor GRAY 11 Jun 1767 at Longframlington, another record says Felton.

I can't find one baptism for any child born to this couple

[dobfarm]

I wrote in a PM to Claire

Still think the key is George's occupation but cant rule out a Quaker birth 1780 to 1790 and Quakers did not record births always in the 18th century and so George's origins may never be known.



Claire wrote back in a PM

But where would he (George Hood d 1845 Selby Quaker burial Selby) get all his cash from at a relatively young age ? I've also been through most of the Wills for Selby ~ he never gets a mention, never a witness.  Wedding registers ~ never a witness. He's like the invisible man. It's almost like he never wanted to be found before his marriage.

I wrote back to her in another PM

Its not just the money, its the trade skills, a cooper trade takes years to learn, Brewing need business and brewing knowledge and tanning is one of the hardest of trades to learn. Business knowledge to turn a business around needs skill unless the cooper business Wren Lane Selby itself was running in the black turning over OK but Richard Gibson himself had other debt issues outside the cooper business, like gambling or other ventures. If George Hood was a skilled cooper promoted to say foreman and picked up R Gibson's business up for a pittance. -There is so much known of George Hood businessman post 1812 but nothing before.

found online link could answer

http://www.quakersintheworld.org/quakers-in-action/39/-Business

quote from link


" Most early Quakers were involved in small-scale local trade, as farmers, craftspeople and artisans.

As the Industrial Revolution unfolded in Britain in the 18th century, many Quakers poured their energies and talents into innovative business ventures. Like other nonconformists, they were barred from university, and most professions, so business was a natural outlet for their talents. They also often had ready access to advice and support, and start-up resources, within their community: Quakers had become a close-knit network of mutually supportive families, many of whom were involved in interconnected businesses.

Quakers sought enterprises that were non-military and also useful - the ‘innocent trades’. They pioneered the mass production of iron, and there were mining and metal production concerns, all central to the early Industrial Revolution "


http://hullhistorycentre.org.uk/quaker/quakerguide.pdf

[BushInn1746]

From the GRO death index Isabella YoB, c1779.

My train of thought is given her son is George Y Hood, maybe James her husband had a brother George, but both families are alluding me in terms of baptisms for any of them

From GRO index George Young Hood was born c1815, baptisms for James and Isabellas children are on FS

EDIT: I apologise ~wasn't very clear in saying who George Young Hood was.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DH47-49J?mode=g&i=100&cc=2353049

I've a few possible death registrations for JAMES Hood. Neither in Gateshead.

Hi

Thanks for all replies and continuing interest.

I wonder if you are onto something, when you have other Hoods with no baptisms. They were probably dissenting Independents. If my father is right about Scottish origin, some Hoods will certainly not be C of E.

Families of larger country houses had their own Chapels, which varied from a separate chapel building, to one room in an established townhouse, e.g. Hood of Bardon Park had their own Chapel building.

I get the feeling George Hood was a swinging Independent, but once marrying in Church (by Allegation/Bond/Licence) in 1815 they encouraged George & Sarah to have their children baptised, but George Hood became involved with the Quaker business community and we now know he made the request to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground, as a non-Quaker.

This shows George Hood of Selby had no strong religious persuasion or conviction to the same faith through life.

These people are loose cannons to the family historian! According to the unverified online claim regarding Jane Hood's (nee Casson, alias Jane Casson Hood) papers she put together in the 1880s [ex Selby, late of Brayton at death], these papers were still held by a Casson in America.

Where families hold papers, they ought to allow bonafide Archives (who list them or the collection online) to photocopy them.

I'm awaiting the high resolution photo of the seal, before I can add much else.

Regards Mark


I've got a newspaper death notice of James Hood, a Baker of Gateshead, I will look it out.